The Washington Post reports that the "lower 48" states of the USA are enjoying spring-like weather. It quotes a meteorologist as saying 1495 record high temperatures have been reached during the month of February (as against 10 record lows); among them:
[Ed Note: it is actually Mangum, OK, not Magnum. The original WaPo article is incorrect.]
(Score: 3, Informative) by FatPhil on Tuesday February 21 2017, @02:14AM
a) A general upward trend which could generally indicate a late interglacial warming, not enough data to distinguish it from linear at the moment;
b) A cyclic (sinusoidal) trend with a ~65-70 year period;
c) An additional upward trend that only started in the middle of the last century, and with a similar kind of gradient to (a), not enough data to distinguish it from linear at the moment.
There's no known non-anthropogenic explanation for (c). It supports, but does not prove, a claim along the lines of "between 30% and 50% of the upward trend seen is explainable by modern industrialisation".
The people who subscribe to this middle road, the ones who aren't Chicken Lickens, and the ones who aren't flatly denying there's any human input, are sometimes called "lukewarmers", and are hated by both extremes, and given no airtime on the failstream media, as they don't have exciting-enough soundbites.
To simply say "(a) exists, therefore (c) doesn't", which seems to be what you're saying, reflects an ignorance of the real data. (And yes, those models were based on raw data, not the conveniently-fudged data which simply smooshed errors thin and over a large region so you couldn't see them rather than actually removing them.)
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 21 2017, @03:12AM
"(a) exists, therefore (c) doesn't"
No, that's not what I'm saying. (a) exists, and (c) probably contributes to (a), but for political and financial reasons, someone benefits from exaggerating (c).
(Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday February 21 2017, @08:43AM
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday February 21 2017, @03:11PM
Because, (a) is the primary driver. I am convinced of that. (c) may make the difference between the temperature rising 11 degrees, instead of 10 degrees. That one extra degree may be a killer, if your about to succumb at 10 degrees. The straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. But, I still believe that half of the doomsayers are hoping to cash in on some scam or other, like Al Gore. "Send me lots of money, and I'll mail you a carbon credit to show that you've done your part to save the world!"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @03:29AM
Because, . . . I am convinced of that. . . . The straw that broke the camel's back, . . . But, I still believe that . . .
Found your problem, Runaway! You believe stuff, stuff that just ain't so! Lay off the Fox News, old man, it is damaging your brain!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday February 22 2017, @03:33AM
I believe that AC is a real person - a nice guy - that he actually possesses an IQ - I don't believe that he kicks babies and eats puppies - I believe that AC takes a bath once a month, whether he needs it or not - I believe that AC is a selfless person who helps every one he meets - I believe!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @08:52AM
Oops, Runaway did it again! Just because your problem is believing things that are not true, that does not mean that it is your believing them that makes them not true!! No wonder you cannot understand that when someone says you cannot even cherry pick, and your defense is that you are not cherry-picking, you are in fact agreeing with them. Yes, that is what they said!