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posted by martyb on Tuesday February 21 2017, @12:48PM   Printer-friendly
from the not-ignoring-ignorance dept.

From the I've-heard-enough-and-won't-take-it-anymore department, http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39024648

The BBC reports that former Congressman Rush Holt, now part of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS), is the spokesman for a movement "standing up for science".

His remarks reflect growing concern among researchers that science is disregarded by President Trump.

Scientists across the US plan to march in DC on 22 April.

[...] "To see young scientists, older scientists, the general public speaking up for the idea of science. We are going to work with our members and affiliated organisations to see that this march for science is a success."

Mr Holt made his comments at the AAAS annual meting in Boston as President Trump appointed a fierce critic of the Environmental Protection Agency as its head. Scott Pruitt has spent years fighting the role and reach of the EPA.


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 21 2017, @09:42PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 21 2017, @09:42PM (#469893)

    Unless they agree with [your opinions]

    Yeah. He's got Marxism and the Soviet system all jumbled up.

    By the 1930s, the Soviets had long-since abandoned worker empowerment (the core of Marxism).

    Bt then, the Soviet leadership had adopted a Totalitarian governmental system and, starting in 1921, [google.com] had gone to a State Capitalism economic form.
    They would still pay lip service to Marx, but their top-down system shit on his ideas daily.
    ...and when Lenin died in 1924 and Stalin took over, the Totalitarian thing went full-bore.

    how dumb soviet genetics got

    Marxism and Lysenkoism had zero overlap.
    Again, the same holds true for Stalinism and Marxism.
    As DeathMonkey has noted, VLM is making up shit to fit his agenda.

    like the pigs in the book animal farm

    There was a reason that Orwell chose the name Napoleon for one of the pigs (Totalitarianism).

    Meanwhile, where actual Socialism is being practiced, thing are going swimmingly.
    At Mondragon, the Worker-Owners hire (and fire) the managers--not the other way around.
    If the Worker-Owners can't find someone within their own ranks with sufficient chops to fill the position, they hire-in someone.
    The ratio of highest wage-to-lowest wage there is less than 10:1.
    ...and, to repeat myself once again, every Worker-Owner gets a vote and all votes are equal.
    ...and if you're not a Worker-Owner, you don't get a vote.
    It's called Socialism AKA Democracy in the Workplace (since 1956 at Mondragon).[1]

    ...and, at the thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of worker-owned cooperatives in Emilia-Romagna, they have the same deal (since 1985).

    [1] Marx's notion of DEMOCRACY EVERYWHERE has yet to be achieved at a national level, but it's coming along quite nicely in the region of Emilia-Romagna in northern Italy, where about a third of their economy is due to co-ops.

    What VLM knows about Marxism would fit in a thimble with room left over.

    -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @05:19AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @05:19AM (#470005)

    At Mondragon, the Worker-Owners hire (and fire) the managers--not the other way around.

    I am really interested in this idea and how it works in theory, day-to-day, etc. It is so simple of an inversion it may work. Is there a more general term for this, a book, essay, documentary, or anything else about it?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @10:32AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @10:32AM (#470092)

      Worker-Owned Cooperative [google.com]
      Democracy in the Workplace [google.com]
      Democracy at Work [google.com]
      Worker Self-Directed Enterprise [google.com]
      I'm pretty sure Prof. Wolff originated that last term.
      I have to go down to item #6 to see his hit, however.
      He has a weekly hour-long broadcast on a bunch of Pacifica Radio affiliates where he talks about Comparative Economics (Socialism vs Capitalism).
      He has a webcast of that as well. Economic Update [rdwolff.com]

      A polymath who has spoken often on cooperatives is Gar Alperovitz. [google.com]

      The Italians got their thing started in 1985 with the Marcora Law. [google.com]

      The Wikipedia article is a pretty good quick once-over on Mondragon. [googleusercontent.com] (orig) [wikipedia.org]

      Step 1 is disregarding all you know about top-down operations and starting to think bottom-up.

      -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]