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posted by on Wednesday February 22 2017, @08:22AM   Printer-friendly
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Susan Fowler, a former site reliability engineer for Uber and current engineer at Stripe, accused the company of rampant sexual harassment and human resources negligence in a blog post published today.

Fowler claims that on her first day out of training, she was solicited for sex by a superior on an internal company chat thread. She then immediately captured screenshots of the messages and sent them to Uber's human resources department. In a healthy organization, such a problem would have been quickly resolved. But Fowler alleges that the harassment only continued, preventing her from moving up within the company.

"Upper management told me that he 'was a high performer' and they wouldn't feel comfortable punishing him for what was probably just an innocent mistake on his part," explained Fowler in her post

At this point, Fowler says in her post that she was given a choice of remaining on the team and accepting, "a poor performance review," or moving to a different team.

[...] Though she didn't want to leave the role she felt she was best prepared to fill, she switched teams. Work continued, and while Fowler had settled into the new role she regularly had conversations with female employees who shared similar stories about HR negligence, even citing unacceptable experiences with the same superior that solicited her.

[...] Amid chaotic internal politics, Fowler attempted to transfer to a different department, but the company blocked her request. Citing strong performance, she couldn't understand why her request had been denied.

"I was told that 'performance problems aren't always something that has to do with work, but sometimes can be about things outside of work or your personal life,'" added Fowler in her post.

She ultimately decided to stay in the same role until her next performance review. But the frustration continued with a second reassignment rejection and a further explanation that her "review had been changed after the fact," and that she didn't show "signs of an upward career trajectory." As a result, she was shut out of a Stanford computer science graduate program sponsored by the company for high-achievers.

Source:

https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/19/former-uber-engineer-says-company-ignored-repeated-reports-of-harassment/


Also at http://www.thedrive.com/tech/7772/kalanick-eric-holder-arianna-huffington-to-investigate-sexual-harassment-incident-at-uber

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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @09:20AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @09:20AM (#470077)

    This annoys me to no end. I think there's an obvious reason for this. There is real sexual harassment but there are also people who are looking to make a buck or damage companies that they feel have wronged them though not necessarily for the reasons stated. And there is also the fragility issue. In today's society there are some people that would take, "I thought your outfit looked nice today." as sexual harassment. Another possibility is off color jokes where, again, absolutely everything would depend on the context. In this case where the alleged harassment even happened digitally in publicly recorded messages so why in the world would she not share the exact, in context, discussion?

    Without clear evidence this is just a call to bring the pitchforks and torches to a company based on allegations on a blog post.

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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by bradley13 on Wednesday February 22 2017, @10:34AM

    by bradley13 (3053) on Wednesday February 22 2017, @10:34AM (#470093) Homepage Journal

    That's a good question. She claims to have captured the actual texts sent. She really should have included the screen captures in her article.

    That said, her allegations are so extremely specific that they pretty much must be true. She has stated specific facts. If those facts were untrue, the company (and her former boss) could rightly sue her for defamation.

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    Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
    • (Score: 0, Troll) by VLM on Wednesday February 22 2017, @02:18PM

      by VLM (445) on Wednesday February 22 2017, @02:18PM (#470160)

      Unless she's judgment proof, of course. Which regardless of truth or not of her allegations is probably financially accurate.

      But wait, you're saying getting sued for defamation would forbid hiring? Not in this case she's a special snowflake guaranteed to move on to bigger things because she'd Fighting The Power(TM) and any claim she lied is merely anti-female sexism, why even documented proof is sexist.

      There's no downside for her to lie. That doesn't prove she's lying, of course. But its not like if a man lied, or a wealthy old contractor lied. Zero risk only upside for her.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:17PM

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:17PM (#470320) Journal

        Fuck you thrice, asshole. You aren't a woman and you have no idea what kind of shit goes down in the workplace. We're running a marathon with a splint, dammit, every damn day. I'm lucky to be tall and scary and glare-y enough that most men don't try this crap with me, but you would not BELIEVE the shit I've seen co-workers take at some jobs. At the latest retail place I was working at we had a guy who constantly harassed two co-workers, repeatedly brought alcohol in (disguised in coffee) and spread rumors that one was a lesbian (for not sleeping with him) and the other did sleep with him (for not sleeping with him--and she's a single mom!). He did this shit for weeks and only JUST LAST WEEK got fired. For no-showing. And that place was run by women and was over 2/3 women workers!

        There is an entire other world out there you have no idea exists. To try and give you some idea, think about those survival horror games where you can phase in and out of different realities, or where your characters sees and hears things no one else does. Imagine having a "rape risk" HUD pop up over pretty much every adult male you meet, not because you're afraid, but simply because you know this shit happens. Mine is usually very low just due to sheer size and WTF-ery, so just trying to imagine what more normal women think and feel is awful.

        tl;dr; just because it doesn't figure on your radar does not mean it doesn't happen to you.

        --
        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 1, Troll) by VLM on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:31PM

          by VLM (445) on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:31PM (#470330)

          We wrote the same thing, but I admit you wrote it much better.

          Compare your post with the section of mine saying the same thing around:

          she's a special snowflake guaranteed to move on to bigger things because she'd Fighting The Power(TM) and any claim she lied is merely anti-female sexism

          Even if we disagree on a hell of a lot, you are a superior writer. I think you read Hunter Thompson in the old days; I see gonzo journalism in there; I like that. On the other hand on my best day I'm a bad imitation of H. L. Mencken, or at least I like to think so.

          • (Score: 4, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 22 2017, @07:03PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday February 22 2017, @07:03PM (#470351) Journal

            Fuck you four times. When you said

            > she's a special snowflake guaranteed to move on to bigger things because she'd Fighting The Power(TM) and any claim she lied is merely anti-female sexism

            You said the precise fucking OPPOSITE of what I did. And no, I never read Hunter S. Thompson; I was born in 1985, long after the Nixonian debacle went down. I'm simply both open-eyed and pissed off; think "George Carlin crossed with a demi-femme Xena warrior princess" here.

            And you will. Not. Gaslight. Me. I counted three, count 'em, ichi-ni-san, cases of deliberate misdirection here: non-sequitur, damning with faint praise, and insincere self-deprecation. You're as transparent as glass to me.

            --
            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
            • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by VLM on Wednesday February 22 2017, @07:33PM

              by VLM (445) on Wednesday February 22 2017, @07:33PM (#470372)

              So I take it the wedding's off then? Just kidding. You don't have to get all personal just because we disagree on ... everything .... politically. No non-sequitur here, only complete lack of common ground making the issue perhaps too confusing for you. I do like your writing style even if we can't stand each others politics. You did catch me on the insincere self-deprecation, I am pretty awesome, thanks for reminding everyone, although that's probably fairly obvious.

              So, sincerely, have a nice day and I suggest you read Hunter Thompson some time, he's more timeless than you appear to think he is, and no I'm not rickrolling you into reading some sort of ur-Moldbug, although I have to admit that would be epic if I pulled that off.

              • (Score: 3, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 22 2017, @07:38PM

                by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday February 22 2017, @07:38PM (#470375) Journal

                Fuck off. You got your bloated head handed to you and you're not gonna make a graceful exit. And everyone can see it.

                --
                I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
                • (Score: -1, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @09:28PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @09:28PM (#470431)

                  You got trolled.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @07:25PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @07:25PM (#470368)

          Anecdotal evidence is not relevant. This is a general rule but magnitudes more important on the internet. There are billions of us here. Even if you take something that is isolated to less than 1% of all jobs or environments you're looking at tens of millions of people who have stories to tell and of course there will be a response bias present - you're not going to have hundreds of women chip in, "I have experienced nothing like this and do not perceive the world in this way." even though that would be more representative of reality. This [wikipedia.org] is a list of crime rates per capita per city in the US. In the most populous city, New York, you're looking at facing an 800% greater chance of being robbed than raped. A 1400% greater chance of facing aggravated assault. A 6000% greater chance of facing property crime. A 600% greater chance of being burgled. And in fact these numbers understate this fact since rape and sexual assault are combined together statistically with rape itself about being about 1 out of 3 of those incidences - so going ahead and change that to a 2400% greater chance of being robbed, 4200% greater chance of facing aggravated assault, and so on. Rape is far more egregious than any of those crimes, but so absurdly uncommon that your behavior is, at the minimum, unreasonably paranoid.

          And in your story I can't help but notice that your coworker decided to respond to somebody who was "sexually harassing" her by sleeping with them. That'll show them how disgusted she was! Or might it be that what you're claiming was "sexual harassment" was crass talk between adults?

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday February 22 2017, @10:18PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday February 22 2017, @10:18PM (#470466) Journal

            You misread. She did NOT sleep with him. Read closer, please.

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            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 1) by AssCork on Thursday February 23 2017, @02:13PM

          by AssCork (6255) on Thursday February 23 2017, @02:13PM (#470699) Journal

          I'm lucky to be tall and scary and glare-y enough that most men don't try this crap with me

          Found the [fattie|trans|fugly]!*
          But seriously, who's to blame? Men? Women ?

          God? That sounds right. After all, He literally made men and women this way.
          I hear there's a lot less harassment under sharia law, might be worth looking into.

          * = I could not resist firing off a satirical response like this after reading your entire post. It's hysterical, and is meant to parody the knee-jerk reaction everyone has upon hearing a statement such as "because of %physical_attribute%, I don't experience this", akin to the wit of Monty Python during the tale of a quest for a certain holy relic, which contains a sub-plot revolving around a group of locals attempting to resolve a matter with a supposed 'witch'. Bear in mind, this is not an apology, just an explanation that I delight in the occasional bout of juvenile humor.

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          Just popped-out of a tight spot. Came out mostly clean, too.
          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday February 23 2017, @06:09PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Thursday February 23 2017, @06:09PM (#470798) Journal

            Good satire is funny though. This...wasn't. This was like some juvenile seventh grader passing obscene notes about his teacher and then grinning and sweating like an idiot in the principal's office and trying to worm out of it by saying "It was a JOKE!!!1111eleventy-one."

            I will admit to needing to lose 7 or 8 pounds, according to the scale. But at six foot that's not a huge issue. Fuckin' ugly? My girlfriend doesn't think so, and her opinion is the only one that matters. And no, I'm not trans, though I do plenty of trans advocacy since we're all in this together, dammit.

            Got anything else to add, or did you run out after your one gush?

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            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
            • (Score: 0, Troll) by AssCork on Friday February 24 2017, @06:38PM

              by AssCork (6255) on Friday February 24 2017, @06:38PM (#471239) Journal

              Got anything else to add, or did you run out after your one gush?

              Not much, other than, syntactically speaking, nomenclature for bracketed options such as "[ one | two | three ]" imply that any one of the options may be chosen. Not all.
              And I know it was juvenile, we all have our moments.

              Glad to hear you're not fat/ugly/trans. Happy Friday.

              --
              Just popped-out of a tight spot. Came out mostly clean, too.
      • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:36PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:36PM (#470332)

        Hey look everybody! We found him, the poor persecuted white male. It is a rare condition which usually results from dementia. Why this is tightly correlated with "software development" is a mystery yet to be solved.

      • (Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:50PM

        by Zz9zZ (1348) on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:50PM (#470345)

        Where is your anger over rich people getting out of crimes? Or minorities wrongly accused of crimes out of convenience / profiling? Is this new concept of equality JUST TOO MUCH for you? Sounds like misdirected anger and a brain washed by anti-liberal propaganda to me.

        I recently overheard a conversation where someone from the South US said they will toss out applications if they went to the rival school, and apparently that is common practice. Care to get your hackles up about that?

        Bad things will always happen, don't let them turn you into a prejudiced fool because your feels are hurt.

        --
        ~Tilting at windmills~
  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @02:28PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @02:28PM (#470167)

    OK lets do it based on their previous known track records:
    1) Her: dunno?
    2) Uber: bad. http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/12/uber-employees-reportedly-used-the-app-to-spy-on-their-exes.html [nymag.com]
    The top execs said those privacy stuff was fixed but 2 years later nope. https://www.revealnews.org/article/uber-said-it-protects-you-from-spying-security-sources-say-otherwise/ [revealnews.org]

    Seems Uber has a bad corporate culture.

    So if I have to place any bets, I'd bet most of what she claims is true.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by bob_super on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:23PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday February 22 2017, @06:23PM (#470326)

      > Seems Uber has a bad corporate culture.

      Coming from a company based on "the rules applying to my competitors don't apply to me because I'm innovating"?
      Inconceivable!

      Also, I don't know if she'd be allowed to publish screenshots of the alleged harassment, considering the chat probably has an "internal, company confidential" clause. Use them as evidence for a lawsuit, sure; but publish for the rest of us to read, probably not.