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posted by on Wednesday February 22 2017, @11:29AM   Printer-friendly
from the so-where-do-they-pay-tax? dept.

Stop terraforming taxation, says Cupertino, and let us get on with it Apple has filed its defence against the European Commission's claim it owes €13bn in back taxes in Ireland.

Apple on Monday filed a defence in which it dismissed the very idea of the US$13.75/£11bn bill, calling for the total or partial annulment of the European Commission decision that set the case in motion and suggesting the Commission pay Apple's costs into the bargain.

Cupertino's argument offers 14 pleas in law that collectively assert that the EU just doesn't understand how Apple operates and thoroughly misunderstands the way it gets stuff done in Ireland.

We therefore get familiar arguments suggesting Apple need not pay tax in Ireland because the real profit-generating work happens elsewhere. Apple Ireland "carried out only routine functions and were not involved in the development and commercialisation of Apple IP which drove profits," says Plea 4.

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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @04:21PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @04:21PM (#470249)

    since governments use force to steal (henchmen and taxes) why don't big corps like apple have mercenary forces that kill politicians who don't fuck off and mind their own business?

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday February 22 2017, @10:36PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday February 22 2017, @10:36PM (#470474) Journal

    Don't know why this was modded flamebait ^. It reflects cycnicism quite similar to posts above it.

    That said - despite the problems we have with incompetent and corrupt governments, I believe we have a problem when corporations are telling governments how things are going to be. The old tail wagging the dog.

    I agree with posts above, the EU should just shut Apple (and any other company) down if they want to play games like this. I've seen a few people on the net using the sig, "I don't mind paying taxes. With taxes, I buy civilization." I don't entirely agree with that sentiment, but it isn't far wrong.

    Apple and all other companies that started out in the US grew fat off of US infrastructure. It's time they paid something back. Likewise with European corporations - they owe something back to the EU. No corporation can claim to be "self made", any more than any man can make that claim.

    I've always laughed at that self made man thing. What he means to say is, he is a self made ass - he insisted on being an ass despite the best efforts of his family and friends.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @10:59PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday February 22 2017, @10:59PM (#470492)

      When I found out Jobs went out of his way to not pay the tag tax on his cars I knew pretty much everything I needed to know about him and taxes. He built his companies on the same tax structure. Look at how Apple, Pixar, NeXT, and Disney run themselves. Some of those are now just Apple and Disney. They play games with taxes to make sure they keep the most and everyone else gets none. They reap the profit and you pay the dime. In the mid 80s he went to Ireland to help write the very tax laws the company now uses to dodge taxes. MS does the same thing but with Delaware and Nevada.