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According to the CBC [Canadian Broadcasting Corporation], researchers at Trent University sampled both the oven roasted chicken filets and the chicken strips that Subway uses on its sandwiches in Canada. After testing six small samples of the filets and three small samples of the strips, the researchers ran a DNA test.
The results showed that the filets contained just 53.6 percent chicken DNA. The strips were found to contain just 42.8 percent chicken DNA.
CBC reports that the rest of the DNA found in the chicken was soy — used either for either seasoning or filler.
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University Study Says Subway Chicken Strips Could Contain Less Than 50 Percent Chicken DNA
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(Score: 4, Interesting) by SunTzuWarmaster on Tuesday February 28 2017, @12:47PM (29 children)
(Score: 2) by Unixnut on Tuesday February 28 2017, @12:52PM (15 children)
> they replaced 50+% of the chicken with soy-chicken and no one noticed.
Well, it is Subway, not sure anyone really buys that for the quality of the food. More for the "I am hungry, need something cheap and filling quickly". It is the McDonalds of sandwich shops.
Saying that, I tried the chicken once, didn't like it, tasted really odd. So never had it again. I wonder if it was due to this.
Another part of me wonders, if 50% of the meat has chicken DNA, what does the rest of the "chicken" contain?
(Score: 3, Touché) by CoolHand on Tuesday February 28 2017, @01:21PM (14 children)
As what you quoted states (and as TFA states), it is soy...
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(Score: 2) by Unixnut on Tuesday February 28 2017, @02:12PM (11 children)
A touché mod for you! I didn't realise soy was the replacement. I only knew of "soy" in "Soy sauce", had no idea "soy chicken" was even a thing. I thought they were referring to chicken marinaded in soy sauce or something.
Thanks for the insight :-)
(Score: 2) by CoolHand on Tuesday February 28 2017, @03:07PM (3 children)
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(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 28 2017, @04:30PM (2 children)
You could replace "vegan" with "moron" and that sentence would have the same meaning.
(Score: 1) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Tuesday February 28 2017, @05:09PM
I did not know morons were generally picky eaters.
Was not aware that vegans generally had mild metal retardation either, buy YMMV I suppose.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 28 2017, @05:15PM
Well, that post has three sentences. However two of them don't contain the word "vegan" so they of course trivially have the same meaning with that replacement. So let's look at the only sentence that, indeed, contains the word "vegan":
This sentence does three things:
So what happens if you replace "vegan" with "moron"?
Well, the changed sentence would:
Conclusion: You are obviously the moron. Given your opinion about vegans, I also conclude that you are not a vegan. Therefore you are indeed a quite good example for the fact that not every moron is a vegan, and therefore that the first part of the meaning of that sentence is indeed changed by the replacement of "vegan" by "moron". Thus your very existence already proves your claim wrong.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 28 2017, @03:08PM (6 children)
Soy beans are one of the highest quality sources of protein.
Its also one of the largest crops in the USA (and the world).
Tofu is pure soy.
This is the kind of stuff a regular of soylentnews.org really ought to know.
FWIW, I'm not terribly bothered by this revelation. The roasted chicken 'cutlets' they use in their sandwich always struck me as being too uniformly shaped - they were obviously squeezed out of a machine. As long as its not [foxnews.com] cellulose [latimes.com] I'm generally OK with it, except for the false advertising aspect.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by Unixnut on Tuesday February 28 2017, @05:13PM (2 children)
>This is the kind of stuff a regular of soylentnews.org really ought to know.
I guess if you are really that interested in food. Apart from the odd time I had tofu, I don't think I ever had anything else with soy in it (and until now, I didn't know tofu was pure soy). It isn't a part of my culture, so hasn't really been part of my diet unless we are going to eat something "exotic". Not sure if soy is big in the Americas, but sounds like it might be.
If you want to discuss electronics, astronomy, cars/engines, aircraft or something computer related, I would probably be more knowledgable. Soyentils are as varied as they are many. One of the things I like about the place, I learned quite a bit new in this conversation thread, so I am better off for the interaction.
Just don't try to lump all of us here as having the same interests and abilities :)
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday February 28 2017, @07:36PM
The only problem is, soy is like gluten and lactose: it. is. in. EVERYTHING.
Just read your ingredients: you're probably getting more than you think.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 07 2017, @06:41PM
Tofu is not pure soy despite what the AC claimed. There are coagulants used:
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-Tofu/?ALLSTEPS [instructables.com]
http://www.soymilkmaker.com/making_tofu.html [soymilkmaker.com]
And don't eat too much of it: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/08/010829083130.htm [sciencedaily.com]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/11661711/Doctors-remove-420-kidney-stones-caused-by-excessive-tofu-from-patient-in-China.html [telegraph.co.uk]
Not that surprising given the combination of high oxalate plus calcium from popular coagulants.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 28 2017, @06:04PM
It also fucks up your hormone levels, and makes you more feminine. Enjoy your "balls-fall-off" meat substitute.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 28 2017, @06:14PM (1 child)
Soy protein is estrogen-mimicing. It encourages the growth of breast cancer. You might even get feminized in some way -- do you like boobs? Soy protein is also inflammatory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens [wikipedia.org]
You can mostly avoid this by using fermented soy (soy sauce, tempeh, miso, natto) instead of unfermented soy (tofu, soy milk, and everything else).
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday February 28 2017, @07:38PM
Do i like boobs?
HELL YES! I'd pay to have nice, soft, feminine boobs. It's why i got married!
Do i like boobs.
Did Hitler like being a Godwin!?!
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(Score: 5, Funny) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday February 28 2017, @04:51PM (1 child)
As what you quoted states (and as TFA states), it is soy...
Taking it to a whole new level!
Didn't read article - CHECK
Didn't read summary - CHECK
Didn't read post he was responding to - CHECK
Didn't read the post he was actually posting - CHECK
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday February 28 2017, @05:39PM
Calm down, it was a joke...
(Score: 2) by CoolHand on Tuesday February 28 2017, @12:59PM (3 children)
I was trying to decide how I felt about this as a vegan.. On the one hand, I think it would be great that people might realize they can eat non-meat products and enjoy them. On the other hand, it's never good to lie to people about a product, and there is usually a backlash about it. So, I'm guessing it probably isn't a "win," possibly a "wash." We will see..
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(Score: 2) by Rivenaleem on Tuesday February 28 2017, @01:09PM (2 children)
Exactly, in response I expect my next chicken sub to contain 150% chicken DNA.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 28 2017, @02:23PM (1 child)
(Score: 2) by CoolHand on Tuesday February 28 2017, @06:37PM
Thank $DEITY THAT didn't last...
Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job-Douglas Adams
(Score: 3, Interesting) by wisnoskij on Tuesday February 28 2017, @01:12PM
>and no one noticed.
It was always soy-chicken.
Their was a show on this study, where they did taste tests as well. And everyone noticed how shitty the "chicken" was.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 28 2017, @01:47PM
No one noticed that there's indeed still chicken in it.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday February 28 2017, @02:44PM (6 children)
they replaced 50+% of the chicken with soy-chicken and no one noticed.
I would imagine the people allergic to soy noticed. Kinda like all crap tier processed foods are also stuffed with wheat.
This is probably a factor behind weird arguments with millennial urbanite hipsters online and at work about how its too expensive to cook at home so they eat restaurant crap every day (shocker, they're fatter than me and have more medical problems than me). Well yes my chicken fajitas are expensive because I'm not a cheap bastard with the marinating sauce and I use actual raw chicken, whereas the restaurant is selling you mostly soy and mystery protein. Or yeah my homemade burgers are more expensive because I buy the higher fat (for flavor) grass fed organic beef (which you can taste) whereas the McD burgers are mostly mystery meat pink slime of unknown origins, so yeah its more expensive when I cook at home, but you could make inedible non-food at home cheaper than a restaurant if you tried. At home I could have one of the neighborhood dogs take a dump on a plate which is healthier than most fast food. Probably cleaner too.
I feel like cooking pork chops with shallots and apples this weekend. Yeah I bet its going to be more expensive that some dried out little pellet of fake "white meat" at a restaurant, but that's because I'm a pig WRT portion sizes and I buy the best stuff, I'm sure there's some restaurant selling mystery meat brat patties in a high carb bun that is kinda sorta equivalent and cheaper, at least if you don't have any taste buds, but I'm not eating junk food, so that doesn't matter.
Hipster Urbanite white Millennials are basically a death cult anyway. Sit around all day thinking of ways to ensure a successful and happy life for them and their descendants and then do the opposite every time.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday February 28 2017, @03:45PM (1 child)
grass fed organic
Are you sure you're not the millennial hipster?
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday February 28 2017, @06:54PM
The relationship I have to my food is I'm a rich capitalist white male buying it with money made out of tasty refined tears of multi generational oppression, which is different from a relationship consisting primarily of posting pix of it to instagram and pintrest for the "likes". Like Gene Hackman portraying Lex Luthor as compared to Zooey Deschanel portraying her only character (if she has more than one I haven't seen it, but I don't watch much TV, so ...).
Money spent on good food is never wasted. Like that old saying about tools, it only hurts to pay for good food once, in the checkout lane, but you'll regret every penny you spent on garbage food several times. Not just WRT food poisoning either.
(Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Tuesday February 28 2017, @05:14PM (3 children)
To be fair, they've halfway got a point, but they lose it in volume. Eating substandard food is cheap compared to the real version of it you can cook at home, unless you cook like a human and not like a restaurant and if you ignore the fact that you get multiple meals out of it. Overall, it's probably impossible to produce a hamburger yourself as cheap as McDonald's. But you can make a big batch of something and eat extremely well for several days. Of course, that requires eating leftovers, which requires not being picky little children.
Example, I made chicken curry last night. It was somewhere between 10 and 15 USD for the stuff, but I made some vegan (tofu) for the girlfriend too, so there's an extra couple bucks added in. Now that's somewhere between comparable to a little expensive of meal compared to your hipster Qdoba or Chipotle or what have you, until you consider that she's probably going to get at least two meals out of hers and I probably have a solid three out of mine. This means that, per meal, it's 2-3 bucks. That's closer to McDonald's cheap stuff, and it's vastly better in every way. Don't like curry? Fine, make chili. Chili is even easier and will probably come out about comparable to the curry in price per serving. Or a stew for that matter.
And that's excluding the things that are remarkably cheap and single serving stuff like your pork chops or, as I prefer, proper pork steaks. I usually cook pork in cast iron on as low of a heat as I can manage with a combination of hot pepper sauce, apricot preserves, and soy sauce spread over them. Good flavor and it melts in your mouth. Pork steak is probably about 2 USD a piece around here, sometimes even cheaper if you get them on special during a sports event or something, so with some veggies and some homemade bread, it's still not that expensive of a meal.
Don't blame me, I voted for moose wang!
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday February 28 2017, @06:57PM
That sounds delicious. The only thing I'd add is teenage kids mean I don't have leftovers they're like wet dry vacuum cleaners but before their monstrous appetites I would make like ten servings of delicious chili as you mention and put a plastic ziploc bag in a bowl or jar and fill the bag and freeze the works and seal the bag and a little microwave work a week later and I'd have delicious chili again.
(Score: 2) by http on Tuesday February 28 2017, @11:07PM (1 child)
When you're working three part time jobs, "cook at home" is a pipe dream worthy of Cheech and Chong.
I browse at -1 when I have mod points. It's unsettling.
(Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Wednesday March 01 2017, @01:42AM
I'm going to assume that doesn't apply to the majority of the millennial hipsters VLM was referring to. I doubt the "three part time job to get by" edge case would try to make the same argument. Theirs would be, I presume, in terms of the time needed to do so.
I mean, back in my early 20s when I was a "two part time job to get by" person, I still cooked frequently. I'm going to guess the biggest difference between their situation and mine would be some combination of needing to spend two hours on the bus each day, those extra couple hours from that third job, and probably some kids mixed in there. Also, I enjoy cooking. That's probably a non-trivial consideration as well.
Don't blame me, I voted for moose wang!