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posted by on Wednesday March 01 2017, @07:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the totally-normal,-right? dept.

America's new president gave an address to a joint session of Congress. The Los Angeles Times posted a full transcript of the speech (along with remarks from its staff that may require Javascript to view); Bloomberg uploaded a video of the event.

The New York Times called it "the most presidential speech Mr. Trump has ever given — delivered at precisely the moment he needed to project sobriety, seriousness of purpose and self-discipline."

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  • (Score: 2) by Sulla on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:20PM (8 children)

    by Sulla (5173) on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:20PM (#473573) Journal

    I hove how the opinions differ about them compared to the far right religious who would have refrained had it been Hillary. But I guess thats how it is, anything one side does is saintly and everything the other does is demonic.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:56PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 01 2017, @10:56PM (#473591)

    I don't think its as symmetrical as that.
    But since you did mention trump being demonic:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/02/22/demonic-activity-palpable-at-president-trumps-rally-pastor-says/ [washingtonpost.com]

  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:09AM (6 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:09AM (#473673) Journal

    But I guess thats how it is, anything one side does is saintly and everything the other does is demonic.

    It's a regrettable dynamic. I am a progressive guy, but the tear that progressives are on right now is incredibly tedious and counter-productive. The people shrieking, "Russia! Russia! Russia!" sound exactly like the people who were previously bellowing, "Benghazi! Benghazi! Benghazi!!!!"

    How about we unwind our collective cognitive dissonances, pop our bubbles, climb out of our echo chambers, and try to be a little consistent, eh? Imagine what we might accomplish if we stopped to realize our pragmatic agendas overlap 90% with people on the other side of the aisle, instead of declaring them apostates of Satan.

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    • (Score: 2) by Sulla on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:38AM (5 children)

      by Sulla (5173) on Thursday March 02 2017, @02:38AM (#473687) Journal

      Well guess you proved me wrong. I dont want to be a hypocrite so I am going to have to support the left calling the right demons. Because I will not forgive Benghazi. She literally made her campaign about being the one you can trust to take a three AM phone call, then blew it off when it actually happened and covered it up.

      I think though what it all boils down to for when any elite make mistakes or do wrongdoing, "X blank are (bad thing), at this point what difference does it make" ? I already committed treason, stop bitching. I already sold the mineral rights, stop bitching. I already bombed Iraq, stop bitching. I already went back on my promise to let you keep your doctor, stop bitching.

      Elite is elite is elite.

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      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @03:04AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @03:04AM (#473697)

        > Because I will not forgive Benghazi.

        Then you are delusional in your understanding of Benghazi.
        Literally 9 congressional investigations and tens of millions of tax dollars spent but at the end, even her most dedicated enemies could not find anything to blame her for when questioned by reporters, instead deflecting by telling them to "read the report." [westernjournalism.com]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @03:10AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 02 2017, @03:10AM (#473699)

        I already sold the mineral rights, stop bitching.

        Oh shit, I didn't see that bit of loony-toons when I first read your post.

        Are you not aware that: [politifact.com]
        (a) She was just one of a nine member committee with veto power over that sale?
        (b) That despite selling the mineral rights, the company did not have the licenses to export even a gram of uranium from the US?

        Here's where you prove you aren't a total tribalist - you say "holy shit, I was completely wrong about that, I wonder what else I was wrong about?"
        Or you just quickly move on and in a day or two you forget you ever read this and continue to believe that Clinton "sold the mineral rights."

        What's it going to be?
        What kind of person are you really?
        Facts or tribe?

        • (Score: 2) by Sulla on Thursday March 02 2017, @09:02AM

          by Sulla (5173) on Thursday March 02 2017, @09:02AM (#473778) Journal

          Those were not Hill specific, so I did not bother to read past your assumpton. Mineral rights one was more a bitch about local politicians.

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      • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday March 02 2017, @05:14AM (1 child)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Thursday March 02 2017, @05:14AM (#473748) Journal

        Well guess you proved me wrong. I dont want to be a hypocrite so I am going to have to support the left calling the right demons. Because I will not forgive Benghazi

        You will not? Who the hell are you? Do you know that this was a CIA operation? As in Clandestine operations? Of course those guys were sent into there to die. Much like the Marine barracks in Lebanon under Reagan. Like the crew of the Maine, in Havana Harbor. Like the lost legions in Siberia! You evidently do not know much about American Military history. All the Americans do is lose, and not just according to the Donald. Lexington Bridge? Losers. Alamo? Losers. Gettysburg? Loosers! Little Bighorn? Big time losers! Vietnam? Oh, yes, losers.
        And of course, everyone loses in Afghanistan, the Americans are just establishing a endurance record. So you better forgive Benghazi, you loser! It is the most minor of American setbacks, was not intentional, and Hilary had nothing to do with it, and Rush Limbaugh never did call for air-support, you hussy! Drop it, now! Concentrate on that poor woman who's SEAL died because of Donald, if you want to not forgive.

        • (Score: 2) by Sulla on Thursday March 02 2017, @09:05AM

          by Sulla (5173) on Thursday March 02 2017, @09:05AM (#473779) Journal

          Who said I forgive Trump? You seem to assume that I like any of them. All of them are tyrants.

          But keep up with the left vs right like a good citizen.

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