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posted by on Sunday March 12 2017, @01:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the playing-both-sides-of-the-fence dept.

Common Dreams reports:

Oil giant Shell also knew of the dangers of climate change decades ago, while it continued to lobby against climate legislation and push for fossil fuel development, a joint investigation by The Guardian[1] and the Dutch newspaper The Correspondent revealed [February 28].

Shell created a confidential report in 1986 which found that the changes brought about by global warming could be "the greatest in recorded history", and warned of an impact "on the human environment, future living standards, and food supplies, [that] could have major social, economic, and political consequences".

The company also made a 28-minute educational film in 1991 titled Climate of Concern that warned oil extraction and use could lead to extreme weather, famines, and mass displacement, and noted that the dangers of climate change were "endorsed by a uniquely broad consensus of scientists". The film was developed for public viewing, particularly for schools.

[...] Despite its own warnings, Shell invested billions of dollars into tar sands operations and exploration in the Arctic. It has also devoted millions to lobbying against climate legislation.

The revelations about Shell come after a separate investigation into ExxonMobil revealed that [that] company had also been waging a climate science suppression campaign and burying its own reports on the global warming impacts of fossil fuel use for decades. Exxon, whose former CEO is now U.S. secretary of state, is currently under investigation by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and state attorneys general for allegedly lying to investors about the risks of climate change.

In 2016, a group of lawmakers asked the Department of Justice to look into Shell's knowledge of global warming as well.

[1] Bogus link in TFA corrected.


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  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday March 13 2017, @06:51AM (9 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 13 2017, @06:51AM (#478323) Journal
    So a bit of transparent propaganda, which incidentally these stupid people completely ignore, is somehow justified? My view is that the "climate change" label ploy is a failure both as propaganda and science.
  • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 13 2017, @07:57AM (8 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday March 13 2017, @07:57AM (#478334) Journal

    You made of Teflon or what? You don't seem to understand your role in this....

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    • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday March 13 2017, @08:19AM (3 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Monday March 13 2017, @08:19AM (#478338) Journal

      Khallow gonna smack that tar baby! Show him who's boss! Yeah, not letting any black mass of petroleum talks back, unless it pays for us to do it. No Teflon for the khallow, only sticky fingers. And an obvious rebuttal. But I think khallow understands very well what his role in all this is. No one could be as stupid as khallow pretends to be unless it was some how in their interests to be perceived as being that stupid. Tar baby. Once he's stuck real good, like, kinda "Twister" with a tar baby, then we can all "dogpile on the khallow" again. Some things never get old.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 14 2017, @03:31AM (2 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday March 14 2017, @03:31AM (#478747) Journal

        I am not sure he does understand his role, frankly. I do suspect he's a sophisticated type of shill, but if he isn't, he's probably not truly aware of what he's doing, or the consequences it'll have.

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        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday March 14 2017, @05:21AM (1 child)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday March 14 2017, @05:21AM (#478768) Journal

          Hmm, I suggest a Turing Test for khallow. He might be a bot. A libertarian bot, which, given the root of the word "robot" in Slavic languages means "slave", is more than ironic.
              On the other hand, his whining argues for the human side. Could it be that he is so naive, almost as naive as Runaway1234, that he truly does not understand why he regularly gets dumped on by nearly everyone on SoylentNews?
              Or, SALT. Khallow is a Soviet deep plant agent, set to wait until the secret signal was sent out, and then to wreak havoc on America by supporting right wing causes like the KKK, the CCC, and the GOP! America is Domed! Domed, I tell you! Teapot Domed, in Roosevelt terms.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 14 2017, @05:20PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday March 14 2017, @05:20PM (#479000) Journal

            Trust me, the guy's posting pattern means he's either a deep shill and knows exactly what he's doing, or else he's so completely RWNJ-deranged he isn't even aware how screwed up he is. Hanlon's Razor applies in either case, but this is *not* a normal human being we're dealing with here.

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    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday March 13 2017, @02:31PM (3 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 13 2017, @02:31PM (#478412) Journal

      You made of Teflon or what?

      I might as well be. Your argument is ridiculous. Because there are stupid people in the world, who don't understand that what's outside their window is not global, a deceptively ambiguous propaganda phrase needs to be used. Somehow this is a good idea, despite the fact that the idiots won't care, and everyone else already knows that "climate change" means "global warming", meaning the use of the phrase is completely pointless - we lose semantic accuracy and gain nothing in exchange.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 13 2017, @09:51PM (2 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday March 13 2017, @09:51PM (#478650) Journal

        Hey, asshole, it's one of YOUR kind, that Republican fellow, who forced the term into public usage. You forget that too, did you? Teflon. Teflon with a bullshit core.

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        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday March 13 2017, @10:34PM (1 child)

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 13 2017, @10:34PM (#478673) Journal

          Hey, asshole, it's one of YOUR kind, that Republican fellow, who forced the term into public usage.

          Again, I don't need teflon for this. Some Republican propagandist didn't force you to use "climate change".

          And how is this supposed to be an argument for using "climate change" as a synonym for global warming in rational discourse? The bad guys thought use of the term, "climate change" was good for their side. So now, we on the other side are going to use "climate change" because...?

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 14 2017, @03:29AM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday March 14 2017, @03:29AM (#478745) Journal

            Fuck if I know. Some misguided attempt to reason with you hellspawn is my best guess. Sometimes I think I have bigger balls than most of the supposed left, and mine are ovaries.

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            I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...