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OSLO (Reuters) - Natural swings in the Arctic climate have caused up to half the precipitous losses of sea ice around the North Pole in recent decades, with the rest driven by man-made global warming, scientists said on Monday.
The study indicates that an ice-free Arctic Ocean, often feared to be just years away, in one of the starkest signs of man-made global warming, could be delayed if nature swings back to a cooler mode.
Natural variations in the Arctic climate "may be responsible for about 30–50 percent of the overall decline in September sea ice since 1979," the U.S.-based team of scientists wrote in the journal Nature Climate Change.
Sea ice has shrunk steadily and hit a record low in September 2012 -- late summer in the Arctic -- in satellite records dating back to 1979.
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 14 2017, @10:48PM (4 children)
Wow, not sure what you are sniffing but you probably should stop.
(Score: 1, Troll) by gottabeme on Wednesday March 15 2017, @07:58PM (3 children)
Keep digging your hole. People are finally recognizing the childish hypocrisy of the leftist mobs. You're digging your own grave, and you aren't even smart enough to realize it. You probably still think Trump won because "racism."
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @08:27PM (2 children)
Because simple graphs of temperature increases matched to the timeframe of major industrialization are too difficult for you? Contradicting decades of research with gut feelings of "no it cannot be!" and tons of corporate sponsored shill science are all you need!! The hole is being dug by the AGW deniers and sadly we are all going to fall into it regardless of political viewpoints.
Now, you and your fellow deniers (or whatever you wanna be called) may have good points. AGW may be manipulated by corrupt people to line their own pockets, but that goes for pretty much any issue. If you fine folks would be good enough to acknowledge the science, THEN we could have a discussion about fiscal policies and good/bad regulations.
But, if you insist on saying the huge mass of scientific data is wrong and behave like children by just screaming "you're wrong its a liberal conspiracy with China to destroy the US!!" then expect only dismissive derision. In fact I'm surprised so many users take the time to rationally respond to each point. I am NOT surprised that rational points are ignored and the retort is usually pseudo science or simply bad science interpretation.
Wasn't the rapture supposed to have happened by now anyway?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @09:29PM (1 child)
To be fair this is a usual way to confuse people who only take a cursory look at things. Unless someone predicted the relationship between x and y should be similar to what the graph shows beforehand, there is not reason to take whatever explanation people come up with seriously.
This trick is actually so old it was used on me in gradeschool by a thousands-year old institution. Look at how you relieved you feel! Right after you confessed your sins for the first time, it must be God's love!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @09:49PM
Scientific data != catholicism
Yes graphs and statistics can be used to confuse and mislead people, that is what critical thinking is all about. If all you've got is "it could be some complicated trick!" then I'll just move along and ignore you :) You can tell this is not a trick because we have actual satellite photos showing the receding ice and weather stations recording the steadily increasing temperature. Just because someone made the effort to put the data into an easy graph does not make it propaganda. Please don't give bad arguments any legitimacy, it only causes them to double down like they just won the lotto. Scientific nuance is generally lost on deniers, except when it can be used to cast doubt and skepticism.