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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday March 14 2017, @09:47PM   Printer-friendly
from the did-they-expect-to-find-handwarmers? dept.

https://www.usnews.com/news/news/articles/2017-03-13/arctic-ice-loss-driven-by-natural-swings-not-just-mankind-study

OSLO (Reuters) - Natural swings in the Arctic climate have caused up to half the precipitous losses of sea ice around the North Pole in recent decades, with the rest driven by man-made global warming, scientists said on Monday.

The study indicates that an ice-free Arctic Ocean, often feared to be just years away, in one of the starkest signs of man-made global warming, could be delayed if nature swings back to a cooler mode.

Natural variations in the Arctic climate "may be responsible for about 30–50 percent of the overall decline in September sea ice since 1979," the U.S.-based team of scientists wrote in the journal Nature Climate Change.

Sea ice has shrunk steadily and hit a record low in September 2012 -- late summer in the Arctic -- in satellite records dating back to 1979.


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  • (Score: 0, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday March 15 2017, @01:20PM (9 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 15 2017, @01:20PM (#479376) Journal

    OH I'M OFFENDED!! says every fucking progressive twit in the world. I point out that no one gives a flying fuck that Twinkie is offended, and you mod me down? You curse me? Fucking snowflakes.

    Accuse others of what I am guilty of? Oh, please, elaborate. You'll have to imagine something pretty good to impress me here.

    Starting Score:    1  point
    Moderation   -2  
       Flamebait=1, Troll=1, Total=2
    Extra 'Flamebait' Modifier   0  
    Karma-Bonus Modifier   +1  

    Total Score:   0  
  • (Score: 2) by tibman on Wednesday March 15 2017, @02:28PM (8 children)

    by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 15 2017, @02:28PM (#479418)

    You're off the handle, man. Since moderators are also normal readers it's easy to get modded into oblivion, deserved or not. I don't always have the "mainstream opinion" but can usually get away with it by using a little tact. But people here are really into fact and not just opinions and feelings.

    Unfortunately, we rely on others to generate that fact which is oftentimes biased based on who is funding the fact finding. If you are of the opinion that the facts are misleading then you'll just have to grow thick skin and accept that you'll be losing fact based arguments for a long time. People here are actually accepting that some people reject facts if done in a more civil way. Pretty much every religious or political discussion right there.

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    • (Score: 2, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday March 15 2017, @03:11PM (7 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 15 2017, @03:11PM (#479434) Journal

      Kinda makes sense - except, look above. Azumi at +3 insightful for HER post? If that's not flamebait, then I've never seen flamebait. But, partisan bullshit. The twinkies mod non-twinkies down, and fellow twinkies up. Which was the exact purpose of my original post. All the rest of us need to moderate on partisan lines, just like the hypocrites do.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @05:05PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @05:05PM (#479487)

        So maybe you are the paragon of virtuous modding, but I guarantee there is a whole lot of conservative down modding. You're complaining that the OP posted a statement which is almost directly contradicted by the article itself and is dowodded because politics? You're half right... OP posted more of a political opinion and not a fact (see above) so expect such downmodding to happen.

        You do realize that you're the one offended here right? Making a big ruckus about someone else's post being downmodded? Cry more about Twinkie snowflakes, its amusing to see the "tough guys" turning into babies.

        • (Score: 0, Troll) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday March 15 2017, @05:15PM (2 children)

          by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 15 2017, @05:15PM (#479491) Journal

          "you're the one offended here"

          Unlike progressives and SJW's I don't get "offended". I've pointed out some hypocrisy. I've pointed out that the mod system is abused.

          YOu disagree with me? That's cool. Mod me with "disagree". That's what the button is for. It takes an idiot to mod someone as "troll" just because they disagree.

          Of course, if you have an IQ high enough to be literate, you already knew all of that.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @08:05PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @08:05PM (#479555)

            Lol you are totally offended! The rationale for downmodding that post was highlighted by multiple users in the thread. Yet here you are with, "HOW DARE THEY MOD SOMETHING TROLL?? I DISAGREE WITH THEM AND MUST POST WHINY COMPLAINTS!!! SJW PROGRESSIVE KEYWORDS HERE"

            Whatever Walter [youtube.com]

          • (Score: 2, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday March 15 2017, @10:49PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday March 15 2017, @10:49PM (#479599) Journal

            LOL, you're melting the fuck down, Runaway. Whazzamatter, you don't like me beating your ass the way your daddy used'ta? I've got a couple of Midol left over if you want a few, ya big whiny bitch.

            (Note: THIS is trolling and flamebait. Feel free to mod it down, and *don't* mod it up; it doesn't even deserve a +1 Funny, this crap is Eth-tier humor).

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @06:54PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @06:54PM (#479533)

        Her post is insightful because it is calling you out on your bullshit. Whining about stuff that happens to everyone, and in this case a quite legitimate reason, OP was quite the flamebait. I agree Azuma's language is offensive, but you're not a special snowflake so you can take that kind of heat right /s?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @07:22PM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 15 2017, @07:22PM (#479539)

        Thank you. Literally every comment I've seen from that user you're referencing has been nothing except trolling and flamebait yet they are regularly upmodded. I assumed they were modding their own comments as trolling and e-peen tend to go together as sure as anything. But in any case it makes the site look very reddit-esque in all the wrong ways.

        • (Score: 3, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday March 15 2017, @07:36PM

          by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Wednesday March 15 2017, @07:36PM (#479544) Journal

          You can't mod your own comments, idiot. I don't know who's modding them up and am surprised it's happening, but whatever. And if you don't like my language you can have a spell on the fainting couch over yonder, snowflake.

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