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The Associated Press reports:
Oregon's chief medical examiner said Tuesday that an infant born to members of a church that practices faith healing died from complications of prematurity as authorities conducted a criminal investigation into the child's death. The baby, Gennifer, was probably "a couple of months" premature and her lungs were too underdeveloped to allow her to breath unassisted for long, Dr. Karen Gunson, the chief medical examiner, said in a phone interview.
Clackamas County sheriff's investigators will present the case to prosecutors but have not finished interviewing witnesses, Sgt. Brian Jensen told The Associated Press in a phone interview.
She died a few hours after her birth at her grandparents' home on March 5 in Oregon City, where the Followers of Christ Church is based. Her birth was attended by three traditional midwives, family members and other church members, authorities have said. No one called 911 when the baby began to have trouble breathing, Jensen said. A deputy medical examiner responding to a call about Gennifer's death noticed the surviving twin, Evelyn, was also struggling and called law enforcement, who persuaded the parents to get her medical treatment. That baby girl is doing well in the neonatal intensive care unit at Oregon Health & Science University, Gunson said.
(Score: 1) by anubi on Friday March 17 2017, @07:39AM (8 children)
AP is up to to some tricks... here's another link to the same thing from what I can tell...
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_FAITH_HEALING_DEATH_INVESTIGATION [ap.org]
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17 2017, @08:09AM (3 children)
Nope, it shows some kind of map. What is wrong with this site?
(Score: 2, Informative) by anubi on Friday March 17 2017, @08:15AM (2 children)
I do not understand... that very link was working for me, and posted it. I get the map too now.
Lemme try this one?
Same link and I did not trim the crap after the "?" in the URL [ap.org]
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17 2017, @08:22AM (1 child)
That one worked
(Score: 1) by anubi on Friday March 17 2017, @08:37AM
Thanks... I'll betcha this mess has something to do with cached pages - because I got it once through Google, it was in cache and subsequent hits were locally redirected to get from cache...
I normally trim off any crap after "?" in the link I get from Google because its so commonly used for tracking people. I'll betcha AP is playing games to let Google get it, but redirect the rest of us to that map.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 2, Interesting) by anubi on Friday March 17 2017, @08:09AM (2 children)
---- offtopic comment - but this is the first time I have seen something like this happen... ----
Ok... now I am really confused. The original link kept routing me to "http://hosted.ap.org/specials/bluepage.html".
I cut and pasted some stuff into Google, and got what Google returned... and posted the link I got just to save everyone else from having to do the same...
Upon cutting and pasting BOTH links into Notepad... they look IDENTICAL.
However, the link in the story will be redirected to bluepage.html...
While the link I posted goes through.
I am now quite puzzled... why does one link go one place, while the other go another? I see nothing different in the links. Does anyone else?
Now, to make my post slightly on topic.... stuff like this is exactly what threw a humongous monkey wrench into my belief system - here I am - raised Pentecostal/Southern Baptist - and I had a lot of cognitive dissonance to go through to shed a lot of childhood beliefs instilled by family. It took several runs like this to do it, but one sees the kind of stuff that goes on in the name of religion, and it can sure take a bite out of one's faith.
I still believe there is a God, but what I see here reeks of the very thing the Bible spoke of about the deception of man.
Some people tell me come Judgment Day, I am going to have a lot of explaining to do.
I feel I can honestly stand up in front of God himself if need be, and truthfully say, "I have done my best - given what I had to work with.".
I can get just as furious as anyone else over a bunch of "believers" pushing incredible viewpoints with no demonstrable evidence.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 3, Informative) by RedBear on Saturday March 18 2017, @02:49AM (1 child)
No huge mystery, I think. The two links are certainly identical. But look at the actual link. "hosted.ap.org"? A bit of wild but educated guessing says that the AP wants to promote local affiliates rather than its own website, so when you go to that link on your own you get the page that wants you to choose your state and choose a local affiliate site from a list. But when you click on the same link from a page of Google results the AP site just directs you to the actual article, or dynamically chooses a local affiliate for you to see. Because it knows where you're coming from, the "referring" site, which would be Google. That's part of how the Internet works.
When I search for keywords related to the article the AP domain doesn't even show up in the results. All I see are related article pages from a bunch of different radio and TV and newspaper websites. It would appear that part of the contractual relationship between the AP and all of its subscribing affiliates is that the affiliates get promoted first. They are, after all, the clients purchasing rights to redistribute the AP content in a mix with their local news.
A lot of very wise people in history all over this planet have been essentially saying the same set of words for thousands of years, that every religious text no matter how old or how complex has at its core the same simple idea: Treat others the way you would like to be treated. All of the rest is just decoration and parables about how to follow that one simple rule. If following that rule to the best of our ability isn't good enough for whatever entity is in charge around here then we all have a serious problem.
¯\_ʕ◔.◔ʔ_/¯ LOL. I dunno. I'm just a bear.
... Peace out. Got bear stuff to do. 彡ʕ⌐■.■ʔ
(Score: 1) by anubi on Saturday March 18 2017, @06:02AM
Thanks for the insight!
It sure puzzled me a lot, as I did the Google thing, clicked on the link Google gave me, got the story, then copied the link, pasted it to my post, saw the ?stuff, trimmed it off, previewed the post, clicked the link in the preview again just to make sure, got the story again, hit submit, got the story again, and got the nice warm feeling I had done something useful and saved everybody else from having to do the same.
Later, I revisited and saw the post from AC saying he got the map.
How could he? I had carefully checked to make sure I was posting a good link. I always do. I clicked the link in my own post and got the map too.
Yet, I know good and well I had got the story before.
The more I was digging into it, I was really getting the idea I was going crazy. Both the original story and my post had identical links.
It wasn't until I stepped away from it that I realized I had got the story once, using the Google referrer link, and now it was in my cache, and subsequent queries as I checked the validity of my post were coming from my local cache, not the internet.
This combined with your insight now makes perfect sense to explain the magic show I just encountered.
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17 2017, @08:18AM
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/0616781dfb5f4b339671501c61e6fe8d/autopsy-newborn-faith-healer-group-died-prematurity [ap.org]
http://www.eastoregonian.com/autopsy-infant-born-to-faith-healer-died-from-prematurity-eo-ap-webfeeds-news-northwest0616781dfb5f4b339671501c61e6fe8d [eastoregonian.com]
Since it's AP, you can just search the text to find copies of it all over the place.