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posted by on Friday March 17 2017, @01:16PM   Printer-friendly
from the we-won't-hear-the-case,-but-if-we-could... dept.

The Washington Post has some analysis of a noteworthy Supreme Court non-decision.

In today's [March 6] Leonard v. Texas, Justice Clarence Thomas sharply criticizes civil forfeiture laws. The one-justice opinion discusses the Supreme Court's refusing to hear the case (a result Thomas agrees with, for procedural reasons mentioned in the last paragraph); but Thomas is sending a signal, I think, that at least one justice — and maybe more — will be sympathetic to such arguments in future cases.

From Justice Thomas' statement:

In rem proceedings often enable the government to seize the property without any predeprivation judicial process and to obtain forfeiture of the property even when the owner is personally innocent (though some statutes, including the one here, provide for an innocent-owner defense). Civil proceedings often lack certain procedural protections that accompany criminal proceedings, such as the right to a jury trial and a heightened standard of proof.

Partially as a result of this distinct legal regime, civil forfeiture has in recent decades become widespread and highly profitable.

[...] These forfeiture operations frequently target the poor and other groups least able to defend their interests in forfeiture proceedings.


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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17 2017, @02:12PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17 2017, @02:12PM (#480400)

    It's because people like Runaway worship authoritarianism. I just pick on him because he commented, and it just so happens he's on the side of liberty today. There are many, many like him. Men are not angels. No agreement in the world is going to stop them from using violent force to take what is rightfully yours. Maybe you're homosexual and tomorrow he'll believe that LiGBuTts--or whatever term he's using to dehumanize you--do not, in the judgement of his authoritarian leader, have rightful possession of what you do rightfully possess according to the contracts you and he entered voluntarily.

    That is why contract enforcement is a natural monopoly that we call "government." Government is the contract enforcer we nominate to be the most powerful warlord, because we hope we can keep that warlord in check by fording it to use due process. In cases such as this one, due process has broken down. All is not lost. At a fundamental level, this warlord exists only in such a way that we bless it to exist. It's up to us to vote in a better warlord.

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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17 2017, @02:46PM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17 2017, @02:46PM (#480412)

    You know, the words that you use ("warlord", really?) and the way that you use them, it should be no surprise to you why people just tune you out. "Oh, he's one of THOSE guys." You think you're the most insightful and smartest guy in the room, but everyone else sees you as just a reactionary babbler.

    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17 2017, @03:48PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 17 2017, @03:48PM (#480462)

      That must be why I have an informative mod and you don't.

      Yes. Warlord. Really. Men are not angels. Men are warlords and soldiers.

    • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Friday March 17 2017, @03:54PM

      by mhajicek (51) on Friday March 17 2017, @03:54PM (#480467)

      AC is right. All governments rule by force and the threat thereof, and usually gain their initial power through war.

      --
      The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek
    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Saturday March 18 2017, @07:16AM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Saturday March 18 2017, @07:16AM (#480793) Journal

      What is a warlord? Someone with a local monopoly on the use of force.