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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday March 18 2017, @07:53PM   Printer-friendly
from the your-phone-is-ringing dept.

Discussion around limiting climate change primarily focusses on whether the best results can be gained by individuals changing how they act, or governments introducing new legislation.

Now though, University of Leeds academics Dr Rob Lawlor and Dr Helen Morley from the Inter-Disciplinary Ethics Applied Centre suggest engineering professionals could also play a pivotal role, and could provide a co-ordinated response helping to mitigate climate change.

Writing in the journal Science and Engineering Ethics, they say engineering professional institutions could take a stand in tackling climate change by developing a declaration imposing restrictions and requirements on members.

"A strong and coordinated action by the engineering profession could itself make a significant difference in how we respond to climate change," they said.

"We know many engineers and firms make great efforts to be as environmentally friendly as possible, and research is carried out and supported by the sector to help reduce its impact on the world. We're suggesting that concerted action could improve this process further."

Quoting 2014 research by Richard Heede from the Climate Accountability Institute, they say nearly two-thirds of historic carbon dioxide and methane emissions could be attributed to crude oil and natural gas producers, coal extractors, and cement producers. These are industries typically enabled by the engineering profession.

They're looking at you, VW engineers.


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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18 2017, @10:22PM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 18 2017, @10:22PM (#480955)

    This site is a man made global warming religion sprooking website if you believe the average unscientific and unskeptical articles appaearing here.

    Scientists who say being skeptical is not being a scientist are not scientists. Science is based on skepticism - having faith is called religion.

    Meanwhile its La Ninia again - droughts in Australia and flooding in South America. If you watch the news you'll see evidence of that solar event happening right now. Then when there is an El Ninio, floods in Australia, droughts in south america. Its like clockwork - yet these facts are missing from all UNIPCC FAR-5AR reports.

    Can we stop trying to destroy capitolism and deny last year world wide record amounts of food were grown (where Greenpeace did not change the local market - economics does soylnet know that too?)

    How much money does this website make from man made global warming advocacy?

    I know I stopped donating - this an example of "news" (fake news) which wasnt around when we all first came here, back then, this site was worth bookmarking.

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  • (Score: 4, Touché) by julian on Saturday March 18 2017, @10:34PM

    by julian (6003) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 18 2017, @10:34PM (#480958)

    It's not the sun [skepticalscience.com], but thanks for mouthing off about something you're ignorant about.

    You can always leave this site if you don't like seeing your bullshit torn down every day. You won't be missed.

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday March 18 2017, @10:35PM (5 children)

    by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Saturday March 18 2017, @10:35PM (#480959) Journal

    The flaw in your hypothesis is that you seem to think it can only get better from here.

    Now, I actually majored in Earth Science, but managed to annoy a lot of people by stating agnosticism about just how much humans contribute to global warming--and make no mistake, the planet *is* getting hotter in the aggregate. That said, pretty much everything the people you idiots deride as "alarmists" are saying we should do is smart to do *anyway* for completely unrelated reasons.

    I mean why the hell would it be a *bad* idea to get off using a fuel that gets us tangled up in tragic, self-defeating alliances? What the fuck is wrong with energy independence? Can someone tell me what's so all-fired horrible about making sure we don't run out of electricity, clean water, and edible vegetables?

    Christ. The people hiding behind the excuse of "butbutbut we DON'T KNOWWWWW so DON'T HURT THE POOR CORPORATIONS!!!1111ONE" are so transparent it'd be laughable if it weren't so tragic. Get a clue: your attempts to reframe the subject fool no one except yourselves.

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    I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by VLM on Sunday March 19 2017, @01:04PM (4 children)

      by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 19 2017, @01:04PM (#481121)

      we should do is smart to do *anyway* for completely unrelated reasons.

      The evils of authoritarianism .... setting up a culture oriented toward mindless belief in the supreme authorities where any statement from authorities beginning with "Jesus said ..." or "The Fuhrer said ..." is inherently true because of who said it and is mindlessly implemented, and it being a great idea even 99% of the time is really nice, HOWEVER inevitably historically seems to lead to serious issues during that 1% of the time they're wrong. Unless you're claiming in public that "Hitler did nothing wrong" in order to remain consistent with a belief in the doctrine of strict religious style authoritarianism.

      "The climate change scientists said ..." is going to get abused, like that kind of thing has always been abused, and always will be abused. Even if its good almost all the time, history as its indoctrinated today shows that's not good enough and we're better off without it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19 2017, @03:55PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19 2017, @03:55PM (#481180)

        .... Your fear is so irrational it is kinda scary. "The big bad scientist is gonna tell me to sacrifice my first born child nooooo!" Are you just mad that trump is compared to Hitler therefore you'll try the same thing??? Crazy VLM, crazy.

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday March 19 2017, @09:14PM (2 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Sunday March 19 2017, @09:14PM (#481258) Journal

        What. The. Fuck. That is deranged. You're trying to couch this in terms of rational, well-deserved caution, but it came out sounding half like a petulant teenager and half like the crazy guy on the R train I used to run into who would tell all and sundry about the chip in his head.

        Personally I don't think you said that in good faith. Which is to say, I don't think you're actually afraid of authoritarianism at all, but rather the authoritarianism that doesn't advance YOUR agenda. And I'm rather insulted you think I'm dumb enough to fall for that, let alone the average SN reader.

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        • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday March 20 2017, @01:50PM (1 child)

          by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 20 2017, @01:50PM (#481488)

          I admit I am greatly enjoying seeing you not countersignal your own authoritarian arguments even if it required a little mental gymnastics to get in position to see it.

          And I'm rather insulted you think I'm dumb enough to fall for that, let alone the average SN reader.

          I'm just pointing out what you wrote.... you could have at least accused me of misquoting you, or taking your comments way out of context. "U think I'm dum" wasn't much of a retort, wasn't unusually convincing that my argument was wrong. You can do better, probably.

          I don't think you're actually afraid of authoritarianism at all

          Once in awhile we do agree, nice to see that, and have a nice day.

          • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday March 20 2017, @04:12PM

            by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Monday March 20 2017, @04:12PM (#481552) Journal

            Go fuck yourself, VLM. You've disappeared so far up your own RWA asshole you eat every mean twice. How the hell did you get authoritarianism from "Gee let's get ourselves out of self-destructive alliances with the Middle East" anyway?

            Seriously, get your head examined. Your responses are not sane, rational, proportional, or even on-topic. You sound like someone wrote a Markov bot and trained it on the chat logs of a bunch of alt-right IRC channels.

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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday March 18 2017, @11:29PM (4 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday March 18 2017, @11:29PM (#480970) Journal

    Meanwhile its La Ninia again - droughts in Australia and flooding in South America.

    Let's ignore the ignorance too, not ignoring it may impede in BS peddling.

    La Niña - rains in Australia [abc.net.au], dry in South America. And the other way around with El Niño.

    Not that this cycle has any relevance in what's your discou... err, sorry, rambling I mean.

    Can we stop trying to destroy capitolism...?

    No, never!!! The US Capitol is better raised level - more esthetically pleasing - we should strive every day to destroy it.
    A call to action here - if every true American would take only a teaspoon of capitol every morning (to shit it next day), the capitolism will disappear in no time. (granted, the waste recycling plans may have some troubles with the .... umm... processed capitolism; those sleazy bastards seems to be quite sticky).

    (grin)

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    • (Score: 2, Troll) by aristarchus on Sunday March 19 2017, @07:41PM (3 children)

      by aristarchus (2645) on Sunday March 19 2017, @07:41PM (#481238) Journal

      Can we stop trying to destroy capitolism...?

      No, never!!! The US Capitol is better raised level - more esthetically pleasing - we should strive every day to destroy it.

      The First Rule of SoylentNews is . . . . The SECOND Rule of SoylentNews is, when pendantically responding to a misspelling by an uneducated climate-denying moron, always throw in one of your own, to help the moron spell more dumbly in the future. That is the only way we can raze them to our level of discourse!

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by c0lo on Sunday March 19 2017, @09:32PM (2 children)

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday March 19 2017, @09:32PM (#481261) Journal

        I'll keep that rule in mind, magister; if inadvertently I'm so successful, who knows what I can do on porpoise? (grin)

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        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday March 21 2017, @07:06AM (1 child)

          by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday March 21 2017, @07:06AM (#481993) Journal

          Fly, my minions, or winged monkeys, or whatever! But get the hell off of that marine mammal! Just because there are "swim with the dolphins" programs where the dolphins seem like over V*aG3red Republican Senators, that is not reason to engage in inter-species Runaway1956 calling on line 4, please hold. Dolphins, you say?

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday March 21 2017, @10:35AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday March 21 2017, @10:35AM (#482035) Journal

            As uneducated climate-denying morons keep their head in the cloud of their ass and refuse to anchor their feed in the muddane reality, I though of enticing them with a marine presence. (grin)

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19 2017, @02:07AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19 2017, @02:07AM (#481001)

    Bleh, you are a pimple on this site. Science isn't about skepticism or faith, it is about following the facts. Right now the facts all point one way, but you "skeptics" (quotes cause you're actually the faith based one ignoring data) still won't admit theybare there. Shell, framing SHELL came out saying AGW is a thing that they tried to suppress!! For the love of pasta get a clue.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19 2017, @06:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday March 19 2017, @06:17PM (#481215)

    You don't know what "skeptical" even means. You don't know what "wrong" means.

    http://chem.tufts.edu/answersinscience/relativityofwrong.htm [tufts.edu]

    There are these people, called "climate scientists", who are paid to measure things and determine other things. And they kind of 95%+ agree that HUMANS are causing GLOBAL WARMING. So I don't know about you, but your child was sick and you visited 20 doctors, and 19 of them told you that your child needs this medicine or it will die, and 1 said "it's nothing", who would you listen to?