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Microsoft Windows 7 or 8.1 users on Intel Kaby Lake or AMD Ryzen CPUs will not be able to download Windows updates.
Microsoft announced some time ago that new silicon as the company called it back then would not be officially supported on Windows 7 or 8.1.
This meant basically that only Windows 10 would support Intel's, AMD's and Qualcomm's new processors, while Windows 7 or 8.1 would not.
This does not mean that Windows 7 or 8.1 won't install on machines running these new processors, but that Microsoft (and the manufacturer) won't offer any form of support for those devices.
A new support page on the Microsoft website suggests that users who run an unsupported processor on an older version of Windows -- read Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 -- won't be able to scan for or download Windows updates anymore.
Users will get the following error message when they run the scan:
Unsupported Hardware
Your PC uses a processor that isn't supported on this version of Windows and you won't receive updates.
It looks like I'll be moving to BSD or Linux sooner than I planned.
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Hairyfeet on Monday March 20 2017, @04:05AM (3 children)
The answer to why Linux turned to dogshit is actually really simple...Red Hat. You trace the guys that have shit all over Linux, from the guys that pushed SystemD onto Debian to the UX guys that crapped all over Gnome and KDE to old Larry Potter himself? It ALL comes back to Red Hat. And the reason why RH pushed this shit is also obvious, they give absolutely ZERO fucks about users and desktops and care only about VMs and "the cloud" so that is where they have been dragging Linux by the nose whether the users like it or not. Why do you think SystemD is gobbling functions like Pac-Man? Its because RH's ultimate goal is to have SystemD be the low level OS and "Linux" to be just a flavor of VM on top of the virulatized SystemD hypervisor.
But it doesn't matter anymore as Linux is dead. Its flatline, its going nowhere. You have MSFT putting out an OS that is nothing but malware and they get more users in a single day than Linux has gotten in 22+ years and on mobile? The FOSS guys fell for a classic EEE screwjob [arstechnica.com] by Google who paid lip service to FOSS while they quietly banned all non GPL V2 code and moved all the critical bits behind the playwall. Mark my words by 2021 you will have SecureBoot locking down X86, with full support from Google mind you as they will want to keep their Chromebooks locked down so you have to buy a new unit when they quit updating it, and thee only place you'll be able to run Linux is on maker junk or uber expensive workstation gear...and it'll be your own fault.
Guys like me tried to warn you, tried to get Linux devs to focus on actually competing against the proprietary guys, but nope, all we heard was the same "500 distros reinventing the wheel equals greatness" and devs shitting all over the code when it finally became stable for the "new hotness" that always sent Linux back several years with every system gutted. It was nothing but SSDD and now its over, the days of open cheap X86 is dying and it'll be black boxes all the way down. If you would have gotten even 10%? They wouldn't be able to lock it down but you refused to compete, you just kept up the elitist bullshit and refused to see that freight train bearing down on you. Couldn't happen to a nicer group.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 2) by Chromium_One on Monday March 20 2017, @05:41AM (2 children)
No real argument from me, and I kinda figure that if Satan actually existed then Lennart Poettering would be the guy to sell his soul for software adoption rates. As for the Linux Desktop Experience going all over the place, eh, that depends - about the time my preferred distro dropped KDE3 support, I swapped to XFCE and haven't looked back. People keep telling me that KDE and Gnome both have emerged from their long, dark nights of usability & stability hell, but fuck 'em until further notice - XFCE just works without the bullshit.
Lol wut? They're doing the stupid for the sake of making system config a one-size fits all deal - and they're being incredibly dumb recreating some of Windows' misfeatures in the process ... with some twists ... but what you're saying here comes out a lot like saying that Windows is a virtualized layer sitting on top of svchost plus the registry. DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Now this is the part where I admit that I should know better than to reply to the mentally ill, but it may be therapeutic for you to be confronted with a few inconvenient facts that are contrary to your worldview.
Assuming I'm reading you right .... and assuming you're not going to hamster like a motherfucker on this one ... lolwut? Here:
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share [statcounter.com]
Not the only possible indicator, but it's a start. Total browser share is a near equal split between Win and Android. If we stop there, your argument could be seen as having a point. But, let's not stop there.
http://gs.statcounter.com/os-version-market-share/windows/desktop/worldwide [statcounter.com]
Of that roughly even spit, Win10 has slowly risen to ~34% of the visible windows browser share, roughly 13% of total.
Win7 is still way the hell ahead at ~47% of visible windows share, or ~18% of total.
One could argue that these numbers are roughly hot garbage for a proxy for who owns/uses what, but if you're going to do so, please show some kind of references.
I really shouldn't even try to engage with your last paragraph, but ...
Again, depends on what your goals are - getting one software package working across multiple distributions is a very well documented process anymore, and the constant re-inventing of the wheel continues, but standards for basic system libraries, etc. are creeping in even if they're de-facto rather than really formalized.
As for vendor lockdown and linux exclusion? Cannot happen. I cannot see any of the CPU manufacturers playing along - MS is not a useful answer for a lot of big iron users, and Intel/AMD/various ARM manufacturers won't want to cut themselves off from the potential bucks there. As always, a few individual mobo vendors and maybe some systems vendors will play along, but it's not going to screw the ecosystem as a whole. The MS trial balloon with locking down Win8 / WinRT boxes for logo requirements didn't pan out.
On alternate architectures at the moment - what the fuck do you think is the go-to OS for early development and testing on these systems? What's the de-facto shipping OS for embedded systems? Linux, period.
Ya know, I'm done here, this post has already taken too much time.
Hairy, seek help.
When you live in a sick society, everything you do is wrong.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by Hairyfeet on Tuesday March 21 2017, @07:52AM (1 child)
Android is a proprietary OS owned by Google [arstechnica.com] which if you are gonna try to move the goalposts and try to claim proprietary mobile phone OSes that use a Linux kernel, like Routers and TiVos and embedded objects are "Linux"? I'm sorry but you are delusional and I won't waste my time dealing with you. We were talking about desktops NOT routers, cellphones, or your toaster...good day sir.
ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
(Score: 2) by Chromium_One on Tuesday March 21 2017, @01:45PM
Again I say lol wut? You're the one who brought up mobile so my goalposts are right where YOU set them.
Linux on mobile is still Linux - kernel patches be damned, it's still open source, it's still compatible, and people can and do put full desktop environments on their mobile devices - ever seen Ubuntu for phones and tablets? Hell, I've slackware, debian, etc. pop up places you apparently won't believe even if I provide evidence.
Any rate, I'm reasonably sure you're both mentally ill and a troll - good luck with the rest of your life. Bye!
When you live in a sick society, everything you do is wrong.