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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday March 21 2017, @10:28AM   Printer-friendly
from the not-just-infosec dept.

Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard

The global cybersecurity workforce remains stagnant at just 11 percent, according to the 2017 Women in Cybersecurity Report[PDF], co-authored by The Executive Women's Forum on Information Security, Risk Management and Privacy (EWF) and the Center for Cyber Safety and Education, which partnered with (ISC)2. The report is based on survey responses from over 19,000 information security professionals in 170 countries.

Report co-author and EWF founder Joyce Brocaglia says the most important finding of the report is that "it isn't just one thing" causing the persistent shortage of women in information security, but rather a "confluence of events."

The findings, says Brocaglia, show that women are underrepresented, are paid less than their male colleagues, feel undervalued, and feel discriminated against. "That's what's leading to this stagnation."

The shortage is severe in North America, with only 14 percent of the infosec workforce composed of women, but even more striking elsewhere; women only claim 7 percent of the workforce in Europe, 8 percent in Asia, and 5 percent in the Middle East, according to the report.

"Common sense should tell you we should be doing more about this," says co-author and EWF executive director Lynn Terwoerds, noting that in order to solve the cybersecurity skills shortage, the industry must do a better engaging the female population.

Source: http://www.darkreading.com/careers-and-people/women-still-only-11--of-global-infosec-workforce/d/d-id/1328409


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @10:51AM (12 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @10:51AM (#482039)

    1. get together with like minded females in the field, esp. senior ones
    2. found startup with high female percentage, it is not like infosec needs huge infrastructure.
    3. compete
    4. win
    5. stop feeling undervalued

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @01:01PM (11 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @01:01PM (#482084)

    6. Watch the Henhouse tear itself apart from infighting and backstabbing as in reality women aren't that much better at getting along then men are, especially when you concentrate them so densely.

    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @03:35PM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @03:35PM (#482190)

      Aaannnd I wonder where women's feeling of discrimination comes from....

      • (Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday March 21 2017, @04:12PM (4 children)

        by Azuma Hazuki (5086) on Tuesday March 21 2017, @04:12PM (#482222) Journal

        Honestly, AC isn't far wrong. One of the worst places I ever worked was a retail gig at a chain clothing store. Most of my co-workers were women too, but far from getting along well, I just got instantly shut out by most of them because they already had their little clique. I guess it didn't help that half of them were still in high school, which means I could be their mother if I had made some very very bad decisions in 7th or 8th grade, but still. Ironically, I got along better with the one guy in there who's about my age than most of the other women.

        People, in general, suck.

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        I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
        • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @04:53PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @04:53PM (#482238)

          People form groups. Its in our genes because we are a social species.
          The fact that women also form groups doesn't negate the fact that the dominate groups in this society are primarily male and white.

          • (Score: 2) by Zz9zZ on Tuesday March 21 2017, @05:21PM (1 child)

            by Zz9zZ (1348) on Tuesday March 21 2017, @05:21PM (#482249)

            Modded you up because while the "white male" thing is overblown nowadays but it isn't incorrect or trollish. However, focusing on that aspect isn't very helpful. Humans group together, you should have stopped there. If I go to Japan I can expect lots of racial bias, or so I've heard. Same for many other countries. We should focus more on breaking these barriers intellectually and culturally without playing the blame and shame game.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @07:34PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @07:34PM (#482340)

              > while the "white male" thing is overblown nowadays

              Yeah, this article is all about how overblown it is.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @05:16PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @05:16PM (#482247)

          I won't argue with "people suck" although I do think it is the vocal minority that makes it happen along with the silent ones who may not agree but don't want to rock the boat. We let the sociopaths get away with things because its a giant pain in the ass to deal with them!! However, as a guy I can clearly tell you that shit happens for men and women alike. There are differences, but cliques are not a female only thing.

      • (Score: 2) by sjwt on Tuesday March 21 2017, @06:35PM (4 children)

        by sjwt (2826) on Tuesday March 21 2017, @06:35PM (#482301)

        Maybe its just the bar-kitchen and warehousing-sales industry but of the 5 female and 1 male HR managers I have known and talked to from a management position or post leaving company position, they have all said basically the same thing.. "Women account for causing 95% of our HR problems" now in the bar/kitchen side the split was about 70/30 female to male, in the two warehouses I worked in with office and industrial supplies the split was about 40F/60M in the warehouse and 60F/40M with about the same levels of staff in each section over all and about 40-50% female lower to mid managers, admittedly in our state we had Zero top level managers, but we only had 3 managers over all, a very small sample size all up im talking about 3-400 staff across two jobs, 17 years and three years, five roles and three different locations.

        Of course this more then likely isnt typical, but the HR managers I spoke to seemed to think it was more typical than not.

        But here is an interesting report about a feminists founded female feminist only workforce

        https://web.archive.org/web/20090408032341/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1168182/Catfights-handbags-tears-toilets-When-producer-launched-women-TV-company-thought-shed-kissed-goodbye-conflict-.html [archive.org]

        I also would love to note while there has been massive movements and slow success to get women into the glass ceiling, there has been little to no effort to get women into the much higher biased glass basement of danger and death in the workforce, you dont hear complaints about the 90% male dominated dangerous industries where pay is high due to risk to life.. if one really wanted to shift averages up, that's a better place to start.

        Dont forget that single never married women who have never had kids under 30 out earn men in the same category by upto 20%, and that women now are making 60% of college graduates and are getting more and more funding to increase those numbers into fields they are not going into, it wont be long before that 60F/40M reaches 70F/30M. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-10/young-childless-women-earn-more-than-men-fact-check/5712770 [abc.net.au]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @07:39PM (2 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 21 2017, @07:39PM (#482342)

          > "Women account for causing 95% of our HR problems"

          (1) Confirmation bias. Once someone has decided that's the case, they will remember confirming incidents and forget contraindicating incidents.

          (2) Even if that were true, how many problems do they have in total? If 98% of women are no problem at all and 99.9% of men are no problem at all, then is it meaningful to say that women account for 95% of the problems? If I told you that 98% of the time you would win a bet, would you decline to take that bet?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 22 2017, @04:18AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 22 2017, @04:18AM (#482539)

            aaaaand what about the link he provided? The one with the focus on being women-only? :-)

          • (Score: 2) by Bogsnoticus on Wednesday March 22 2017, @06:02AM

            by Bogsnoticus (3982) on Wednesday March 22 2017, @06:02AM (#482568)

            Women account for 75% of our HR problems.
            Our HR department has 3 women and 1 man. No confirmation bias, just simple maths.

            --
            Genius by birth. Evil by choice.
        • (Score: 2) by chromas on Thursday March 23 2017, @01:29AM

          by chromas (34) Subscriber Badge on Thursday March 23 2017, @01:29AM (#483039) Journal

          interesting report about a feminists founded female feminist only workforce

          She probably would've gotten a lot farther if she'd picked women she knew had the merit instead of women who just thought it'd be great to be surrounded by women and didn't tell them that's what she was doing.