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posted by on Wednesday March 22 2017, @12:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the the-man-knows-what-you're-watching dept.

Encrypted Media Extensions (EME), a mechanism by which HTML5 video providers can discover and enable DRM providers offered by a browser, has taken the next step on its contentious road to standardization. The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), the standards body that oversees most Web-related specifications, has moved the EME specification to the Proposed Recommendation stage.

The next and final stage is for the W3C's Advisory Committee to review the proposal. If it passes review, the proposal will be blessed as a full W3C Recommendation.

Ever since W3C decided to start working on a DRM proposal, there have been complaints from those who oppose DRM on principle. The work has continued regardless, with W3C director and HTML inventor Tim Berners-Lee arguing that—given that DRM is already extant and, at least for video, unlikely to disappear any time soon—it's better for DRM-protected content to be a part of the Web ecosystem than to be separate from it.

Berners-Lee argued that, for almost all video providers, the alternative to DRM in the browser is DRM in a standalone application. He also argued that these standalone applications represent a greater risk to privacy and security than the constrained, sandboxed environment of the Web. He acknowledges that DRM has problems, chiefly the difficulties it imposes for fair use, derivative works, and backups. He notes, however, that a large body of consumers don't appear overly concerned with these issues, as they continue to buy or subscribe to DRM-protected content.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by meustrus on Wednesday March 22 2017, @04:14PM (6 children)

    by meustrus (4961) on Wednesday March 22 2017, @04:14PM (#482805)

    EME doesn't hurt you on its own. The user still needs to install the actual DRM extension separately. EME just creates a standard API for such extensions to exist. The EME code itself can be open-source, and no closed-source code is leaking into Firefox from it.

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  • (Score: 2) by Arik on Wednesday March 22 2017, @04:38PM (4 children)

    by Arik (4543) on Wednesday March 22 2017, @04:38PM (#482823) Journal
    "EME just creates a standard API for such extensions to exist."

    And?

    "The EME code itself can be open-source, and no closed-source code is leaking into Firefox from it."

    So?

    Seriously, why would I care about any of that? I don't worship open source code, I want software that respects my rights.
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    • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Wednesday March 22 2017, @05:13PM (3 children)

      by meustrus (4961) on Wednesday March 22 2017, @05:13PM (#482835)

      I don't worship open source code, I want software that respects my rights.

      That seems like a contradiction to me, but whatever. The fact that it's open source means that you (or anybody else) can fork Firefox and remove the EME code if you really want to. I'll bet somebody will.

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      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 23 2017, @07:33AM (1 child)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 23 2017, @07:33AM (#483112)

        Free Software is software that respects your rights. Open source may or may not do so, and many advocates of open source only care about technical quality and would gladly use proprietary software if it was better in that sense. If you're looking for a movement that focuses on ethics, then that's the Free Software movement.

        • (Score: 2) by meustrus on Thursday March 23 2017, @02:32PM

          by meustrus (4961) on Thursday March 23 2017, @02:32PM (#483219)

          A distinction which I am aware of. I usually use the term "open source" as a catch all because "free software" implies "free as in beer". Which is also similarly misleading, because it doesn't make sense unless you say "free as in 'free beer'".

          Anyway the difference is usually moot for consumers; open source code can almost always be co-opted by free software groups, like how OpenOffice was forked into LibreOffice. And in this case, it's whether the source is open to modification and redistribution that matters; that criteria is met by both movements.

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      • (Score: 2) by Arik on Thursday March 23 2017, @04:23PM

        by Arik (4543) on Thursday March 23 2017, @04:23PM (#483270) Journal
        "That seems like a contradiction to me"

        There's nothing contradictory about it at all.

        "The fact that it's open source means that you (or anybody else) can fork Firefox and remove the EME code if you really want to. I'll bet somebody will."

        That remedy remains legally available, in theory, but it's not actually a remedy for this problem.

        I understand this is a subtle point, it's taken me years to grasp it, but the problem here is not just technical, it's largely social and legal. It may make relatively little technical difference, to someone that is technically literate, but it has a tremendous influence on the behavior of those who are not, and once they have been herded into place the rest of us are effectively disempowered and silenced.

        As an example, let's suppose there is a media file produced by the government which I have every legal right to see - but they choose to publish it for me using a proprietary DRM system. This is a common problem. When I try to explain to them that this method of 'publication' fails, it's MUCH easier for me to explain, not just to them, but to everyone else that might have influence or input as well, it's MUCH easier to get them to see the issue if it's NOT using some sort of published 'standard' to legitimize itself. It shouldn't be, it wouldn't be if we were all technically literate, but the fact nonetheless remains, it IS.

        So it's vitally important that this sort of thing be blocked from incorporation in any sort of open standard. Regardless of the technical facts, in the popular mind, this grants the scum an aura of legitimacy, and often even cuts off our right to object in any way.
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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Wootery on Thursday March 23 2017, @09:35AM

    by Wootery (2341) on Thursday March 23 2017, @09:35AM (#483140)

    The user still needs to install the actual DRM extension separately.

    In practical terms: not really. An EME blob is bundled with modern releases of Windows, and with Chrome. The user doesn't get to opt-out in either case.