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posted by on Wednesday March 22 2017, @11:34PM   Printer-friendly
from the i-resign dept.

Movies and television shows are full of blunders, some more noticeable than others, and each with their specific guild of victims. Ornithologists fume when British period dramas are overdubbed with American birdsongs. Government employees will tell you that the supposed main White House staffer in Contact has a nonexistent job. Archeologists hate movie shipwrecks, and marine biologists are already mad about the zombie sharks in the upcoming Pirates of the Caribbean installment, which, as cartilaginous fishes, should not have ribs—even ghostly ones.

But these are merely occasional grievances. There's one group of experts who can barely flip on the television without being exposed to egregious, head-on-desk mistakes: chess players.

"There are a ton of chess mistakes in TV and in film," says Mike Klein, a writer and videographer for Chess.com. While different experts cite different error ratios, from "20 percent" to "much more often than not," all agree: Hollywood is terrible at chess, even though they really don't have to be. "There are so many [errors], it's hard to keep track," says Grandmaster Ilja Zaragatski, of chess24. "And there are constantly [new ones] coming out."

[...] Peter Doggers of Chess.com notes another Dramatic Checkmate move: the felled king. "Tipping over your king as a way of resigning the game is only done in movies," he says. (See Mr. Holland's Opus, in which Jay Thomas slaps his king down after being owned by Richard Dreyfuss).A normal chess player will just go in for a good-game-style handshake. "This falling king thing has somehow become a strong image in cinematography," he says, "But chess players always think: 'Oh no, there we go again...'"

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  • (Score: 3, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 22 2017, @11:45PM (10 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 22 2017, @11:45PM (#482995)
    Starting Score:    0  points
    Moderation   +3  
       Flamebait=1, Interesting=1, Informative=1, Funny=1, Underrated=1, Total=5
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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 23 2017, @12:53AM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 23 2017, @12:53AM (#483022)

    Lexx season 4 episode 18 The Game

    "A grippingly executed chess game derived from The Seventh Seal."

    The entire episode consists of one completely genuine chess match.

    Parent post is a counterexample to the "news" piece.

    The moderator who marked it Spam is a FUCKING IGNORANT PIECE OF SHIT.

    Which is perfectly NORMAL for SOYLENT MOTHERFUCKING IDIOT NEWS.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by SomeGuy on Thursday March 23 2017, @01:05AM

      by SomeGuy (5632) on Thursday March 23 2017, @01:05AM (#483029)

      And if you had put that all that in the post, then it would not have looked like spam.

      No one here is going to click on some random unlabeled youtube link.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 23 2017, @02:45AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 23 2017, @02:45AM (#483053)

      The moderator who marked it Spam is a FUCKING IGNORANT PIECE OF SHIT.

      I did it. I am Spamacus.

    • (Score: 2) by Aiwendil on Thursday March 23 2017, @09:59AM

      by Aiwendil (531) on Thursday March 23 2017, @09:59AM (#483143) Journal

      The moderator who marked it Spam is a FUCKING IGNORANT PIECE OF SHIT.

      Let's see here:
      1) Single word as title = +1
      2) Non-descriptive link = +1
      3) Link goes to javascript only site = +1
      4) JS-req link posted without warning at a site with an above average percentage of users with JS turned off = +1
      5) Video-only with no warning = +1
      6) Non-described url posted as AC = +1

      Total = 6.

      Yup, I'd classify that as spam as well. Next time, provide context/description for your url (heck, we even warn for microsoft.com when it comes to JS, so "it's youtube" is no excuse)

      Only way you could have posted that worse would have been with a url-shortener.

      However, the content (assuming the description is apt, I don't know since I don't visit js-laden sites nor video-sites) was appreciated. So, keep it up and please warn for JS and video in the future and post a (short) description with the link.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 23 2017, @10:05AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 23 2017, @10:05AM (#483146)

      big-ol'-whiner.js

  • (Score: 2) by WalksOnDirt on Thursday March 23 2017, @03:56AM (4 children)

    by WalksOnDirt (5854) on Thursday March 23 2017, @03:56AM (#483072) Journal

    The initial set up had the queens on the wrong colors. Corrected when they changed to heads.

    The colors of the squares were initially reversed, too. Also later corrected.

    • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Thursday March 23 2017, @09:30AM (3 children)

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Thursday March 23 2017, @09:30AM (#483136) Homepage
      And the white king moved into check after mate was called. There's no intrinsic reason the rules should forbid that, but they do, so again, it's an incorrect representation of real chess. Which is a shame, as most of the time they were clearly trying to make it be a real game of chess. Talking to your pieces is somewhat against tournament protocol too, I might add.
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      • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Thursday March 23 2017, @10:20PM (2 children)

        by Nuke (3162) on Thursday March 23 2017, @10:20PM (#483414)

        And the white king moved into check after mate was called. There's no intrinsic reason the rules should forbid that

        The principle of chess is to take the opponent's king, but it is chess etiquette for the loser to resign as soon as he sees that as inevitable. "Check Mate" is when the inevitable is just one move ahead. The better the player the further ahead they can see the inevitablity.

        As a brilliant player myself, I can see that I am going to be beaten so far ahead that I always resign after my opponent makes his very first move.

        • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Friday March 24 2017, @07:54AM (1 child)

          by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Friday March 24 2017, @07:54AM (#483560) Homepage
          my point was that it's actually codified in the rules that you are not permitted to make a move once you are in checkmate, as the game is already over and you have lost. It's an optimisation that shortens 0% of games (for the reasons you state) by 2 moves, and thus an absolutely essential one for them to have codified.
          --
          Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people; the smallest discuss themselves
          • (Score: 2) by Nuke on Saturday March 25 2017, @07:32PM

            by Nuke (3162) on Saturday March 25 2017, @07:32PM (#484171)

            A good chess player I knew played against an early implementation of computer chess. He beat it, but even though in checkmate the computer continued to play. So my friend took its king, but the computer still did not give up, continuing to play! My friend then took all the computer's pieces, whereupon the program crashed.

            Obviously the programmer did not know the rules of chess entirely and/or assumed his program would never be beaten.