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posted by takyon on Monday March 27 2017, @10:48AM   Printer-friendly
from the drupal-gored dept.

Drupal founder Dries Buytaert expelled Larry "Crell" Garfield from the Drupal community (archive) for his involvement in the BDSM community. Garfield claims this was done at the demand of Drupal Security team member Klaus "klausi" Purer and unknown others secretly pressuring Drupal leadership to have him removed for his private sex life.

takyon: From Larry's response:

I am involved in two such communities, specifically the BDSM community and the Gorean (Gor) community. The former is by far the larger of the two and more varied, although I spend more of my time and activity in the Gorean community. It's a small community, and sadly much of what is found online about it is utter crap, just as most in the BDSM community find the "50 Shades" representation of BDSM to be harmfully misleading. The Gorean subculture is inspired by a science-fiction book series written from the 1960s onward to today, and predicated on a strong sense of personal honor, integrity, and community. It also practices consensual Master/slave relationships, and has a strong gender bias toward male-Dom/female-sub relationships, but that is not the cornerstone of Gorean culture. There are other groups that are biased the other way, or have no gender bias. There are even groups in Chicago (where I live) that have regular "fem-dom" parties. To each their own.

It's the same Gor that was adapted into two films, one of which appeared on an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by khallow on Monday March 27 2017, @07:17PM (4 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 27 2017, @07:17PM (#484803) Journal

    How so? Does his sex life off the clock affect his coding while on the job? Can you give us any examples?

    The obvious thing is when his sex life off the clock brings problems on the clock. There are a variety of ways that can happen such as porn surfing on the clock, sexual discrimination, off the clock criminal charges that harm the reputation of the organization.

    But what's interesting here is that no such problems have been mentioned. For example:

    The Gorean philosophy promoted by Larry is based on the principle that women are evolutionarily predisposed to serve men and that the natural order is for men to dominate and lead.

    According to Garfield, it's just a great way to be kinky in your relationships and he emphasizes consensual master/slave relationships.

    The Gorean subculture is inspired by a science-fiction book series written from the 1960s onward to today, and predicated on a strong sense of personal honor, integrity, and community. It also practices consensual Master/slave relationships, and has a strong gender bias toward male-Dom/female-sub relationships, but that is not the cornerstone of Gorean culture. There are other groups that are biased the other way, or have no gender bias. There are even groups in Chicago (where I live) that have regular "fem-dom" parties. To each their own.

    So according to Garfield, he isn't promoting the "Gorean philosophy". In his own words, he's having fun.

    Maybe there were legitimate problems which have no been brought out in the open, but I don't see the case made for exiling Garfield.

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  • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday March 27 2017, @08:01PM (3 children)

    by aristarchus (2645) on Monday March 27 2017, @08:01PM (#484837) Journal

    And guess what we call

    consensual master/slave relationships.

    ?? Slavery! There are some things to which even mentally competent adults cannot consent. We might even say that if they do, they are not mentally competent? Now of course, if it is only pretend slavery, but where is the fun in that?

    • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday March 27 2017, @08:54PM (2 children)

      by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday March 27 2017, @08:54PM (#484867) Journal

      ?? Slavery! There are some things to which even mentally competent adults cannot consent.

      The obvious rebuttal is that the "slave" party can leave the relationship any time they want (since the relationship is consensual). That makes it not slavery for those keeping track.

      • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Monday March 27 2017, @09:13PM (1 child)

        by aristarchus (2645) on Monday March 27 2017, @09:13PM (#484880) Journal

        khallow!!! Did I give you permission to comment in this thread? No? Hold out your hands! Where did I leave that riding crop? No, I will not listen to your latest appeal to the pedant's dictionary! You need to be punished, on your obvious rebutt.al. Leave? There is no "leave". Now, hold out your hands, knuckles up. NOW!!

        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:15AM

          by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday March 28 2017, @12:15AM (#484944) Journal

          Do you have a newsletter?

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