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In January 2013, police raided the home of a Cleveland drug dealer, saying in a search warrant that an informant had recently bought crack cocaine there.
But the drug dealer had surveillance cameras that proved the officers were lying. He gave the tapes to his lawyer, who showed the FBI. The feds then worked to uncover a massive scandal of a rogue street-crimes unit that robbed and framed drug suspects who felt they had no choice but plead guilty to fraudulent charges.
Four years later, authorities are still unwinding the damage.
Three cops who worked for the city of East Cleveland are in prison. Cases against 22 alleged drug dealers have been dismissed. Authorities are searching for another 21 people who are eligible to have their convictions tossed. On top of those injustices, there is a slim chance that any of them will be fully reimbursed, because the disgraced officers and their former employer don't have the money.
Source: NBC News
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @04:28PM (3 children)
That's not how justice works.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Tuesday March 28 2017, @05:20PM (2 children)
(insert professor Snape voice) Clearly... (end voice)
I don't think people visit the bad parts of Cleveland and hang out with career criminals to learn what justice is, or to observe some kind of Plato-like utopia in operation. So now we have THAT out of the way...
What is justice, anyway?
Sure, I agree, going all "My Lai Massacre" on a rich suburban white village because some underage kid might be underage smoking is not justice. But then again Cleveland isn't My Lai or a rich suburban white village. The cops seemed to do the best they could, for the most people they could, with the tools they had, as fairly as they could, which kinda sounds like real world justice. Sure, fine, whatever, that doesn't sound like justice to me back home, but then again Cleveland isn't my home town, either. Isn't the moral relativism argument delicious? I got no problem with Cleveland Justice especially when Cleveland needs it and its over there not over here. I pay a lot of money for it to be over there and not over here, which has an interesting side effect of accumulating neighbors of a type that doesn't require it anyway. I know how I want to live and they apparently disagree and I think that's very multicultural of both of us to live and let live.
Obviously they're not crazy or stupid, a lot of cops came up with the same solution. If a lot of people think something's right, and you can't understand their point of view, that's your problem, not theirs. In their culture, which isn't mine and probably isn't yours, they were doing the right thing, and if you don't understand or like their culture, that's just being racist. I'm open minded. Not a racist bone in my body.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @05:42PM (1 child)
You type a lot for somebody who is obviously trolling.
I think you know exactly why what the cops were doing isn't justice.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 28 2017, @05:56PM
He's a troll, whether intentional or not. All about 'Murica and Freedom until it bumps up against his righteous meter. Then he gets the kick of self-righteous justice smacking down the bla... *cough* bad people. This is the guy who further up the thread had to toss in a basketball reference in his football analogy because apparently he must always point out that he is addressing a "different" part of the population. Now I won't go full blown "he's racist" but c'mon, the guy obviously can't let go of some deeply ingrained beliefs. He already stated it isn't justice, but continues on about criminal records because deep down he is just so happy that some shit got piled on people he doesn't like. The "modern" concept of justice is truly outside his domain, apparently he can't fathom why we let people we "know" are criminals walk freely in the streets. Here's a hint VLM, belief and evidence are not the same thing for a good goddamn reason.