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posted by on Tuesday March 28 2017, @11:31PM   Printer-friendly
from the five-easy-pieces dept.

This weekend comes word that two of the masterminds behind the United Kingdom’s ongoing divorce from the European Union, Nigel Farage and Arron Banks. The duo just returned from the United States, where they reportedly helped raise a million bucks for one of the Calexit campaigns floating around — a scheme that would split the state into two eastern and western regions.

Farage and Banks are known as the Bad Boys of Brexit, and for good reason. As the controversial leader of the UK Independence Party, or Ukip for short, the one-time broadcaster Farage stirred up the anti-immigration pot in England among the white British working class. Banks, who co-founded the Leave.EU group, angered many when he claimed that Britain’s UK membership is “like having a first class ticket on the Titanic.’’ He also got into hot water with his controversial move to commission a poll after the murder of British politician Jo Cox, asking respondents whether the crime would have an impact on public opinion.

Now the Bad Boys have brought their shtick to California, according to a report in the Daily Mail which says the pair are helping exit backers trying to pit the eastern, more rural side of California against the western ‘coastal elite’ liberals in Los Angeles and San Francisco. The plan would be to create a Republican stronghold in the new state cleaved off California’s eastern flank, thus giving the GOP two more senators and electoral college votes for a 2020 presidential election.

Mercury News continues:

Meanwhile, a second Calexit campaign is underway. It’s called Yes California and it would see the state seceding from America entirely. If that initiative successfully finds a place on the ballot, a Yes vote would repeal clauses in the California Constitution stating “California is an inseparable part of the United States and that the United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land, ‘’ according to a statement from California’s Secretary of State Alex Padilla’s office said.

[Ed note: corrected typo in this story's last paragraph and expanded same to include the entire paragraph from which it was extracted. --martyb]


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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday March 29 2017, @02:10AM (5 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 29 2017, @02:10AM (#485616) Journal

    States should typically have populations of about one to three million people so that individual voices are not so diluted.

    At 300mils population, this means between 1000 and 3000 states, right?
    Just imagine the Senate [blick.ch]

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  • (Score: 2) by WalksOnDirt on Wednesday March 29 2017, @03:09AM (4 children)

    by WalksOnDirt (5854) on Wednesday March 29 2017, @03:09AM (#485637) Journal

    No, 100 to 300. That's still probably too many.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday March 29 2017, @03:54AM (3 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 29 2017, @03:54AM (#485655) Journal

      No, 100 to 300. That's still probably too many.

      Right, thanks. Insomnia effects.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @08:08AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @08:08AM (#485758)

        Maybe there needs to be another level of representation between counties and states?

        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday March 29 2017, @09:51AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 29 2017, @09:51AM (#485793) Journal

          Maybe there needs to be another level of representation between counties and states?

          Yeap, more governance! Bring it on!!!
          (then spend whatever needed and build that Golgafrinchan Ark Fleet Ship B - keep the hairdressers at home and replace them with the political parasites)

          Haven't you had enough of the two parties system? Here's an idea: maybe if you adjust the rules of the electoral game, you'll be better represented.
          Many European countries are governed mainly by coalition governments, not a single party can form a govern on their own and the coalitions are somehow fluid.
          There, have Netherlands as an example - pre-March 2017 no less than 10 parties represented in their parliament [wikipedia.org].
          The result? Heaps of negotiations (isn't that what the politicians are supposed to do?), many amendment to laws and the rate of passing laws is slooow - which results in a smaller number of laws, complex just enough to plug the loopholes that affects the people represented by each of those parties.

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        • (Score: 2) by HiThere on Wednesday March 29 2017, @03:14PM

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday March 29 2017, @03:14PM (#485938) Journal

          Yes, And a restriction so that regulations at one level can only be applied the the directly lower level, not all the way down. The direct election of Senators was also a bad mistake. It severely weakened the powers of the states, leading over time to the encroachment of the Federal government beyond all reason and without hindrance. The states, defending their own power (often for vile or stupid reasons) had previously provided that hindrance. Similarly allowing the Federal government to directly tax the citizens rather than taxing the states which taxed the citizens was another bad mistake.

          I've got to be fair, each time those actions were done, there was a "good reason". It's just that the long term effects were worse than what was avoided, and a different answer needed to be found. If, of course, your goal was the good of the citizenry of the country rather than the power of the federal government.

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