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posted by on Wednesday March 29 2017, @02:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the can-you-dig-it? dept.

A pair of archaeologists with the American Museum of Natural History has unearthed a palatial compound in El Palenque's plaza in the Oaxaca Valley in Mexico. In their paper published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Elsa Redmond and Charles Spencer describe their work, what they have uncovered and how their findings fit with the emergence of organized states in Mesoamerica.

[...] The palace has been dated to approximately 2,100 to 2,300 years ago, a time before the Aztecs. Most in the field believe that the civilization that existed in Oaxaca was among the earliest states to come into existence in Mesoamerica. Redmond and Spencer suggest that their findings at the palace site back up that theory.

The palace, the pair report, was well preserved and covered approximately 2,790 square meters and had not only living quarters for the ruler and his family, but business offices, a staircase, a dining area and a place to perform sacrifices. The researchers report that construction techniques used by the builders suggest the building was designed ahead of time and that it was likely a single construction effort that would have taken a lot of organization. Also, its large size demonstrated that the ruler had a lot of manpower at his disposal. The researchers also note that personal details are still evident in some parts of the palace, such as the cistern for collecting rainwater in the residential quarters and the drain carved into stone to bring in fresh water and remove waste.

A similar find in Mexico: Circular Temple to God of Wind Uncovered in Mexico City


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  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday March 29 2017, @06:33PM (5 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday March 29 2017, @06:33PM (#486075)

    what they have uncovered and how their findings fit with the emergence of organized states in Mesoamerica.

    So how does this stuff square with all the accounts of Mesoamerican societies in the Book of Mormon?

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @08:03PM (4 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 29 2017, @08:03PM (#486154)

    No practicing Mormon actually believes all that stuff; it's just fairy tales that make people feel like they belong to something great.

    If any Christian actually believed Christianity, he'd be running through the streets madly trying to convince people to save their souls from eternal damnation. Everybody already knows its hogwash, and if not, then you think archaeology is going to change his mind?

    • (Score: 2) by Bot on Wednesday March 29 2017, @09:39PM

      by Bot (3902) on Wednesday March 29 2017, @09:39PM (#486199) Journal

      > he'd be running through the streets madly
      why? it's not like you never heard about that Christ guy.

      "For many are called, but few are chosen."

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @12:06AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @12:06AM (#486256)

      Or he'd be going around killing babies so their souls are guaranteed a place in heaven. What's the value of 100 years of life when compared with the high potential of eternal suffering? Then he gets to go to heaven too for his self-sacrificing acts: he knew he was going to hell for murder but thought it was worth it to save the kids, thus to heaven he goes. Unless he thought of that, then it's back to hell.

      • (Score: 1) by ewk on Thursday March 30 2017, @10:26AM

        by ewk (5923) on Thursday March 30 2017, @10:26AM (#486416)

        "Unless he thought of that, then it's back to hell."

        And that is why you generally don't see Christians running around killing babies...

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @03:25AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @03:25AM (#486319)

      Well, they do have magic underwear.

      You might also be forgetting how many people in the US actually believe that the world is literally 6,000 years (give or take) old.

      There are even more people who believe that the world was created in 6 days who twist around the meaning of the word "day" to try to reconcile it with cosmology.

      My personal experience is that people in the former group start in the latter group.

      One thing that's been really scaring me lately is that there are more and more young Earth creationists who believe that any time a TV show or movie makes reference to the universe being older than 6,000 years that the people who make the show are either brainwashed by Satan or being forced at gunpoint by scientists to conceal the "truth."