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The UK Government has officially notified the EU that they are invoking Article 50. This begins the 2-year timer for the UK to leave the EU.
In a statement in the Commons, [Prime Minister Teresa] May said: "Today the government acts on the democratic will of the British people and it acts too on the clear and convincing position of this House."
She added: "The Article 50 process is now under way and in accordance with the wishes of the British people the United Kingdom is leaving the European Union.
"This is an historic moment from which there can be no turning back."
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(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @02:54PM (7 children)
This whole racist and xenophobe thing is on the rise simply because of human nature and culture. People like status quo. They dont like change. Europe, and even the USA have enjoyed a somewhat stable cultural environment for quite some time. That environment was mostly white christian. Sure, there are different christians which has caused violence in the past . But for the most part, they believe in the same things, follow the same bible, and celebrate the same holidays. They can more easily co-exist.
Once you have a bunch of foreigners coming in droves, forming neighborhoods and rapidly changing the cultural environment, it can seem like an invasion. And invasions are perceived as aggressive causing an equally aggressive reaction. This is the case with the millions of muslims and eastern europeans who have migrated to countries with good economies such as the UK, France, and Germany. The vast majority mean no harm and just want to work and have a better life. But a few bad apples spoil the bunch and of course the media focuses on those. Muslim criminals, radicles, no-go zones etc. "Natives" hear these stories, some blown out of proportion or outright lies (muslim no-go zones) and flip shit. And thanks to most people being incredibly stupid and incapable of rational independent thought, form a mob mentality that they are in fact being invaded. So they want to fight back. The current generation of politicians arent stupid and take full advantage of the political climate and run on a populist platform.
In the end, the so-called bigotry, racism and xenophobia are basic parts of human nature which are carefully taken advantage of and manipulated.
(Score: 2) by HiThere on Thursday March 30 2017, @03:38PM (3 children)
Not precisely. It's because when people get frightened they cling to the familiar, even if it's already on fire or sinking. And this means they try to avoid, remove, etc. the unfamiliar. As the Singularity approaches a larger percentage of the population becomes frightened. For some this is job loss, for some it's "what kind of life will my children have?", for some it's "you can't trust anyone anymore" (that's mainly people who grew up in small towns that have become large), etc.
These are all quite predictable reactions that those who consider the Singularity wondrously attractive somehow ignore/ed. It's going to get more intense, and paranoid reactions aren't helping matters, even though they are predictable. There's a sort of negative image of the tragedy of the commons involved. Personally I give us (the species) about a 50% chance of coming through it. But this is better than we'd have if we continued to live in independent nations with intransigent leaders that control nuclear/biological/etc. weapons.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @06:45PM (2 children)
Try again.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @08:29PM (1 child)
Do Brits even practice ritual infant genital mutilation? I thought it was only something Americans and Moslems do.
I feel your pain. Stay strong.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @08:32PM
Never mind me, I'm a complete retard. Of course you were talking about Moslems. Moslems should go to the USA instead, where the AAP wants American hospitals to open their infant genital mutilation practices to infant females as well as infant males.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by bradley13 on Thursday March 30 2017, @06:54PM (1 child)
"Once you have a bunch of foreigners coming in droves, forming neighborhoods and rapidly changing the cultural environment, it can seem like an invasion."
You have large numbers of uneducated and generally unemployable people arriving, who do not speak your language or share your cultural values. That *is* an invasion.
"The vast majority mean no harm and just want to work and have a better life."
Yes. There's a refugee here who just arrive from Afghanistan. Seems like a nice enough guy, although he doesn't yet speak a word of any local language. But here's the thing:
- Every individual is a fine person.
- Entire migrations are not fine.
I have total sympathy for an individual person who was in a shitty situation. I understand that they just want a better life. But there are are literally hundreds of millions of people in Africa and the Middle East who desperately want to go to Europe. We cannot take them all - not "don't want to" but cannot.
If Europe wants to accept some number of immigrants, this is something we can disucss. But the process must be under control. You cannot let people just randomly wander in. Put a process in place for immigrations, and enforce it. Anyone arriving outside of this process must be turned away, with no exceptions whatsoever.
Everyone is somebody else's weirdo.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday March 30 2017, @07:59PM
A lot of those cultural values also has to do with viewing women as prey. In general every person that is physically weaker at any time as free to prey on. Add to that the drive for theocratic ruling of the society. The key is however that they can't and won't be employed in any meaningful way at large in industrialized nations, which puts them on welfare that impacts the economy. And the loyalty to existing citizens are way too low to make it work as a integrated society which impacts security.
(Score: 2) by mojo chan on Thursday March 30 2017, @10:15PM
It's due to decades of shitty newspapers blaming the EU and immigrants for almost everything. Pretty much the only stuff they don't get blamed for is the stuff that is blamed on the workshy unemployed and single mothers.
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