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Open source projects are by their nature intended to be welcoming, pulling in contributions from many different volunteers. But in reality, open source and the tech industry in general often lack diversity. Speaking at the Open Source Leadership Summit in February, Mozilla's Chief Innovation Officer Katharina Borchert told the crowd that working to bring ethnic, gender, and skill diversity to open source projects isn't just the right thing to do because of moral grounds, it's the right thing to do to make projects more successful.
Me, I beg to differ. Pretty sure success has to do with the diversity of thought/ideas rather than genetic diversity.
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(Score: 2) by Snotnose on Friday March 31 2017, @01:51AM (25 children)
Diversity in thought can be useful, yeah. But diversity in gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, whatever? IMHO, if you push your viewpoint based on these criteria then the organization is doomed to failure.
If, say, gender diversity was the bee's knees we'd see a lot less male dominated silicon valley companies succeeding.
A straight guy realizing "Um, if we did this we'd get a shit-ton of gays" is not diversity, it's realizing how your product works.
"Diversity" is a blame game for why there aren't more women/bi/gay/colored/transsexual folks in the workplace, when the fact is those women/bi/gay/colored/transsexual folks aren't showing up for interviews. Prolly cuz they don't exist.
/ I'm gonna wish I hadn't said this in the morning
// Not that I'm not right
/// But because I'm not Politically Correct
When the dust settled America realized it was saved by a porn star.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 31 2017, @02:03AM (22 children)
Hell, you're entirely correct. I will cop to white and cis privilege, but this is coming from someone who ticks half the boxes on this list.
This sort of cargo-cult mentality regarding diversity is a sign of a mentally bankrupt organization. Yes, you want to make sure you have a wide set of viewpoints and backgrounds on your team, but they also have to be competent to do the work. This is a band-aid, a lot like affirmative action; something people do to assuage their guilt over their complete lack of fucksgiving when it comes to actually solving the systemic issues at the root of all this.
When these organizations start fixing up inner city schools, rescuing human trafficking victims, opening food banks, THEN I'll be impressed. At this point it's attempting to signal virtues they don't have. Save the signalling for when you have something to back it up with.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Friday March 31 2017, @04:20AM (21 children)
Hey, the only reason we have the Moldy Brisket coding here on SoylentNews is for diversity! As part Native American, and left-handed, and under 5 foot, he counts triple on Scrabble!
(Score: 3, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday March 31 2017, @10:24AM (20 children)
That's Indian (feather not dot), you racist fuck! Also acceptable are American Indian, Blanket Ass, and Wagon Burner. Prairie Nigger only if we're friends.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 31 2017, @04:21PM (19 children)
Good grief, if you're actually $FRACTION-Indian, that makes your bullshit even worse. I'm not surprised, as such, just...well, disappointed. Even more so than usual.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday March 31 2017, @06:13PM (18 children)
You should pay more attention if you didn't yet know this. You know, read a post instead of just throwing out some unrelated vitriol in reply.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 31 2017, @08:32PM (17 children)
Hadn't seen it mentioned before. I had made the assumption (yes, yes, I know, assuming makes an ass out of you and some guy in Hong Kong named Ming...) that anyone as completely selfish, evil, and all-around assholian as you couldn't possibly be anything but WASP in this country. I overestimated your self-awareness, *again.*
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31 2017, @09:13PM (16 children)
The guy claims to be part cherokee.
Just like every other liar who claims to be part native american.
Seriously, its so common its a joke. [nerve.com]
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday March 31 2017, @09:51PM (15 children)
Did I? It's possible, I suppose. Generally I say Chickasaw if anyone asks because that's what all the paperwork says. Now I am equal parts Chickasaw and Cherokee but you're only allowed to claim one tribal bloodline for official purposes and nobody really cares all that much so I rarely get into detail.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday March 31 2017, @11:26PM (14 children)
So can I call you Pocahontas from now on? :D Or maybe Shitting Bull?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 01 2017, @01:04AM (13 children)
I think having the dangly bits would make Pocahontas a bit too far off the mark for the desired effect. Go for it with whatever else you can come up with though. I'm not ashamed of my races so epithets get no traction with me.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday April 01 2017, @01:34AM (12 children)
Got it, Pocahontas it is. Though I really do think "Chief Shitting Bull" fits you really well, like a glove almost :)
Your response was absent your usual venom, though. It almost sounded defeated. Did something happen? ...because whatever it is I hope it keeps happening.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Troll) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 01 2017, @03:13AM (11 children)
Venom, from me? Never happen. Bitchslapping clueless noobs is my hobby. I enjoy it. Not really in the mood just at this moment though.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday April 01 2017, @05:10AM (10 children)
Whatever you say, Pocahontas :) You've been getting your shit wrecked nine ways from Sunday this entire week.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 1, Redundant) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 01 2017, @05:49AM (9 children)
I think you've been reading different comments than I have.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday April 01 2017, @07:11AM (8 children)
I think you're a whiny little bitch, and like every other time you get your fat lying ass handed to you you resort to outright denial. Ain't that right, Pocahontas?
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Saturday April 01 2017, @10:21AM (7 children)
Think whatever blows your skirt up, darlin. It's no skin off my nose.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Saturday April 01 2017, @11:30PM (6 children)
You keep falling for this crap, Uzzard. If it really didn't bother you, you wouldn't hang on my every post like a lonely teenager wondering why her crush hasn't texted her back. This is the fourth time in memory I can count that one of our exchanges has lead to you sitting here plugging your ears and insisting you haven't gotten your ass beat like...well, like what Runaway's daddy used to do to him :)
Everyone. Can. See. You.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday April 02 2017, @12:51AM (5 children)
Sweety, unless I just can't be arsed to (everyone has those days), I respond to everyone. Don't worry though, you're still special for other reasons.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 02 2017, @06:36AM (4 children)
You're another one what doesn't know the first rule of holes, Pocahontas. I'm going to keep mocking you until you drop dead of a what-passes-for-a-brain-with-you aneurysm.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Sunday April 02 2017, @10:28AM (3 children)
Enjoy yourself. I remain other than bothered.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 02 2017, @07:39PM (2 children)
Not even you believe that, Chief Shitting Bull. If you did, you wouldn't keep responding to every---single---post---I make like an abandoned special needs kid wondering why his mommy doesn't love him anymore.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Monday April 03 2017, @12:12AM (1 child)
Meh, if you're just going to spout provably false nonsense, I think we're done for now.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Monday April 03 2017, @02:37AM
We were done about 12 posts ago when I handed you your fat Bud-swilling ass :) You're not foolin' no one but you, Pocahontas.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Friday March 31 2017, @09:51AM
If, say, gender diversity was the bee's knees we'd see a lot less male dominated silicon valley companies succeeding.
That doesn't really follow, unless your input set is a mixture of diverse and non-diverse companies. In reality, almost all funded startups in the valley are male dominated and have around a 90% failure rate. Perhaps they'd have an 85% failure rate if they were more diverse, perhaps they'd have a 95% failure rate, but we don't have the information to extrapolate.
Diversity in thought can be useful, yeah. But diversity in gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, whatever? IMHO, if you push your viewpoint based on these criteria then the organization is doomed to failure.
I see one as a route to the other. Society places a lot of pressures on people growing up that shape their adult worldview and these pressures are different depending on socioeconomic background, gender, and ethnicity. The goal is a diversity of ideas and viewpoints, but that's far easier to accomplish with people from different backgrounds. The companies that are annoying in this regard are the ones that add men and women of different ethnicities from wealthy backgrounds in the same few areas and say 'look, we're super diverse!' - it's only true if 'super' is short for 'superficially'.
sudo mod me up
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 31 2017, @01:58PM
Diversity in thought is rubbish. Having a moron on your team that thinks 2+2=5 is not beneficial. That person brings 0 practical value to the project, and only a marginal value as a case study of what a fucking moron user might do with the system.