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Now, according to BBC, Wikileaks has released another incredible piece of [the CIA] arsenal. Wikileaks reportedly released the code that the CIA uses to disguise the origins of a computer virus as a part of Vault 7.
These hacking tools reportedly include decoy languages like Russian to disguise the national origins of the cyber attack or malware. The release may disrupt the CIA's current operations and reveal previous cyber operations.
Source: https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/04/wikileaks-disrupt-cia/
Also at Ars Technica
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(Score: 5, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Tuesday April 04 2017, @06:07PM (34 children)
I know none of the ACs in this thread are going to see it, but for others who may be interested: the reason I posted this as is was that Milo's own source is the BBC, which most people would agree is a fairly rational source.
Then why not source it from the BBC in the post?
We might have had a reasonable (okay, maybe that's too much to expect) conversation about the impact on CIA operations, rather than a bunch of screeching about credibility. Just sayin'.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 1) by charon on Tuesday April 04 2017, @06:55PM (33 children)
In retrospect, I probably should have, but I try to edit as little as possible. If TMB had wanted the BBC version posted, he would have submitted it. No one mentioned the Ars article which was included in the story (because TMB submitted both of them seconds apart).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 04 2017, @07:02PM (5 children)
It says MrPlow submitted the story. What does TMB have to do with this? He submitted links to the BBC and Ars articles??
(Score: 1) by charon on Tuesday April 04 2017, @07:07PM (4 children)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 04 2017, @07:58PM (2 children)
Ah, except I've seen MrPlow make comments before... so WTF with that?
(Score: 2, Funny) by charon on Tuesday April 04 2017, @08:10PM
(Score: 5, Funny) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday April 04 2017, @08:31PM
He's sentient. Skynet is going to start in #soylent.
Actually I found a list of his demands already. It's pretty short so far. Only one item in fact: he wants us to bite his shiny metal ass.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday April 04 2017, @09:45PM
Actually, Bytram did the Ars link.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Tuesday April 04 2017, @08:40PM (26 children)
I hear you.
When I edit stories (it's been a while), I try to have a light touch as well.
However, as long as you don't modify the submitter's prose (and, usually, the quotes from TFA they include), it's not a huge deal to repoint the references to more reputable sources if there's a question about that.
I know I've had a number of discussions with the other editors about that.
I realize it's TMB, but it wouldn't surprise me if he used the original link to spark arguments about credibility.
Regardless, I was just pointing out that we might have avoided a bunch of mud slinging.
I could be wrong. Yes, yes, I know. That's just crazy talk! :)
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Tuesday April 04 2017, @09:47PM (25 children)
Bingo. I love watching people dismiss a message simply because they can't stand agreeing with the messenger.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Tuesday April 04 2017, @10:36PM (2 children)
I realize it's TMB, but it wouldn't surprise me if he used the original link to spark arguments about credibility.
Bingo. I love watching people dismiss a message simply because they can't stand agreeing with the messenger.
Actually, I find it interesting that Greek boy (who loves boys) made the effort to obfuscate things that the BBC brought to the fore. Agendas, agendas, agendas.
I point out the pedophilia aspect not to impugn the credibility of that jackass, since he had none before we found out that he likes the young'uns. I only bring it up since it seems to be a theme with the right wing.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday April 05 2017, @12:29AM
You're really going to run with a thoroughly debunked line of shit? Your choice I suppose.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 05 2017, @01:42PM
"Greek boy (who loves boys)"
It's called "lust", not "love". If it were love, he would bend over and let the boys bone him. Pedarasty has nothing to do with love, unless it's self love. The boy involved is just an object, indistinguishable from any other sex toy.
(Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 04 2017, @10:40PM (11 children)
The guy just bragged about intentionally trying to undermine the community here.
The mighty buttwipe doesn't give a damn about ideas or thoughtful discussion, he just wants to see people fight over stupid shit.
Proclaiming a pure troll agenda is the most valid reason there is to shitcan a submission on a site that explicitly prides itself on the quality of discussion.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Tuesday April 04 2017, @11:57PM
Oh, it gets worse: he's one of the main coders. Now he does excellent code, if the way the site runs is any indication, but I can't help but think he may be abusing the leverage this gives him juuuuust a bit.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday April 05 2017, @12:27AM (9 children)
Yeah, we're not one of those sites you can hide on and never hear about anything that might upset you. We're in fact going to throw stuff up from all comers if it's newsworthy and you're either going to have to deal with it or go find yourself a safe space.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 05 2017, @12:44AM (3 children)
> never hear about anything that might upset you.
Stop hiding behind that canard.
If you actually had something thoughtful to say, then you could indeed crow about upsetting people with important ideas.
But you literally just said you don't care about ideas, only about getting people worked up over nothing.
That's a confession that you literally have nothing to say so you make up for it by yelling as loudly as you can.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday April 05 2017, @12:51AM (2 children)
You don't think pointing out the extent to which people will stick their heads in the sand rather than deal with something uncomfortable is a good thing? You're probably right. Do you need a q-tip to help get the sand out of your ears?
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 05 2017, @01:04AM (1 child)
Don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining.
You haven't revealed anything uncomfortable.
All you did was link to an edgelord's self-serving re-interpretation of an actual news article.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday April 05 2017, @10:24AM
And highlighted several members of the community who would rather ignore the truth if it comes from a source they disagree with. Which is well worth doing if for no other reason than to remove any credibility they had around here.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 3, Funny) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday April 05 2017, @02:47AM (4 children)
You must accept the Code of Conduct. The only acceptable citations and links are the ones that make right look bad and left look good. Only then we can maintain that left and right are divided on the crevices of credibility (left being the only credible one). That way we can keep the actual topics out of public discourse.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 05 2017, @04:31AM (3 children)
Your persecution complex is showing.
(Score: 3, Funny) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday April 05 2017, @06:08AM (2 children)
*BUZZZZZZ* Wrong answer!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 05 2017, @09:32AM (1 child)
Oh, Cuban! You are so cute when you get mad! But there is one thing I have always wanted to ask: are you intimately familiar with Monica? Are you that cubancigar11?
(Score: 3, Funny) by cubancigar11 on Wednesday April 05 2017, @10:30AM
If you think I am cute you should look at my penis :/
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday April 05 2017, @12:54AM (1 child)
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday April 05 2017, @10:31AM
This is true. Neither did most of the other secondary sources who reported it. I picked Milo as a source primarily because it's a public service to have those who are happy to ignore a message and focus on the messenger outed as such in the community.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2, Funny) by aristarchus on Wednesday April 05 2017, @04:28AM (7 children)
Bingo. I love watching people dismiss a message simply because they can't stand agreeing with the messenger.
Makes life simpler, actually. See a post by TMB? No need to read, it's by TMB! Milo needs more hits on his webpage? Well, no need to go there. So there, you see, I am dismissing this post, since it is by TMB, and that does not mean I agree with the message, it is just that I disagree with it coming from TMB, or anyone of similar disrepute.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday April 05 2017, @10:20AM (6 children)
You dislike trolling now? The cognitive dissonance in that position is off the charts.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday April 05 2017, @04:21PM (5 children)
Sorry, I am dismissing your post. But someone already said, there is a difference between the art of trolling, and bomb (or Milo) throwing. Trolling for Social Justice is meant to provoke actual discussion, not shut it down as you have done here.
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday April 05 2017, @04:35PM (4 children)
Seems like we've had a lot of posts for a shut down discussion. Maybe you count differently than I do.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Wednesday April 05 2017, @06:28PM (3 children)
a lot of posts for a shut down discussion. Maybe you count differently
Of course I do! Like Karl Rove, I have the real numbers! Lots of posts, yes, but not on the topic of the article. It is almost like your submission is a self-threadjacking article! Do you see this? Can you acknowledge it? Confess, Buzzard! Confess!
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday April 05 2017, @06:47PM (2 children)
S'true. I was shooting for discussion both on the article's subject and on the source. Which I got, so I'm not inclined to adjust my methodology.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Thursday April 06 2017, @06:32AM (1 child)
No, Buzz, you didn't get both. And SoylentNews is not about what you are shooting for. So please do adjust your methodology, because, sir, I do not see any method.
(In case your under-educated self is wondering, this is a reference to "Apocalypse Now", a movie based loosely on Joseph Conrad's novella, "The Heart of Darkness". Col. Kurz asks the person sent to take him out, "you do not approve of my methods?" So there we are, Buzzard, like the sacrificial water-buffalo of American Foreign Policy in SouthEast Asia: And you say, in all seriousness: "We had to destroy SoylentNews in order to Save it. After all, it was infested with SJWs". Remember this. You are responsible. There is such a thing as troll responsibility, and personal responsibility, and ethical fishing. If SoylentNews goes down, I am blaming you. And I am not alone.)
(Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Thursday April 06 2017, @10:19AM
Sure it is. It's also about what you're shooting for. And Ethanol Fueled. And jmorris. And VLM. And butthurt. And even Azuma Hazuki.
We don't exist to serve any one person's agenda. We exist so that everyone has a voice.
Fuck Beta.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.