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The Syrian government has once again been accused of attacking a rebel-held area with chemical weapons:
A suspected Syrian government chemical attack killed scores of people, including children, in the northwestern province of Idlib on Tuesday, a monitoring group, medics and rescue workers in the rebel-held area said.
The Syrian military denied responsibility and said it would never use chemical weapons.
The head of the health authority in rebel-held Idlib said more than 50 people had been killed and 300 wounded. The Union of Medical Care Organizations, a coalition of international aid agencies that funds hospitals in Syria, said at least 100 people had died.
The British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the attack killed at least 58 people and was believed to have been carried out by Syrian government jets. It caused many people to choke, and some to foam at the mouth.
White House press secretary Sean Spicer blamed the attack on the "weakness and irresolution" of the previous U.S. administration.
Also at BBC, NYT, Fox News, the Washington Post, and The Hill.
(Score: 2) by butthurt on Wednesday April 05 2017, @11:51PM (8 children)
Welcome to 2017? False flag operations were a thing before any of us were born. Certainly the rebels have reason to fake such an attack. Without any evidence, it's my working assumption.
Can you tell me anything about the photo of the apparently dead children? Your link doesn't say who is supposed to have taken it, nor where it's been published. Some of the wounds to which your source is directing our attention are very obvious. I would think that, if the children were killed with the intention of taking a photo of their corpses in support of a false claim of a chemical attack, some effort would be made to avoid causing such obvious wounds and bleeding.
What would you say is the most convincing evidence that the attack was faked by the rebels--or contrariwise?
About the Russian statement, I don't think Russia would falsely say that the Syrian government had engaged in an attack. I also don't think Russia would offer an explanation for the presence of a chemical agent if there were none present and rebel fakery had taken place. For those reasons I take the Russian statement as evidence against such fakery.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2017, @01:03AM (7 children)
Exactly, Asshat and Putin have every reason to avoid committing such atrocities.
I can tell you what I've read (since I personally would find the images too upsetting), and that is that there are images taken of children dying from a supposed nerve agent featuring attendant adults who were only wearing respirators. This is not consistent with sarin gas.
Trump declares that regime change is not an objective and days later we have this? In no way was it in Asshat's or Putin's interests to do such a thing. The only interests it serves are those of the Sunni axis and their Western allies. Russia has (mostly) played by the rules of international law, the US has no legal right to have soldiers in Syria. Tell me who is acting in bad faith here? [almasdarnews.com] What the hell is happening in the Yemen?
We have history with this. Recall the chlorine attacks when the only chlorine facility in Syria was under the control of the "rebels"? This is an obvious false flag, one so disgusting that everyone involved should be tried for war crimes.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2017, @06:09AM (6 children)
Exactly, Asshat and Putin have every reason to avoid committing such atrocities.
Yeah, autocrats with a history of brutal slaughter out in the open [haaretz.com] are really careful about that sort of thing.
that is that there are images taken of children dying from a supposed nerve agent featuring attendant adults who were only wearing respirators. This is not consistent with sarin gas.
WTF?
(a) Children are more susceptible to all poisons because their bodies are so much smaller that equivalent doses have much stronger effects.
(b) Adults tending to children after a gas attack not dying from the attack is proof of nothing more than the fact that they showed up after the attack.
We have history with this. Recall the chlorine attacks when the only chlorine facility in Syria was under the control of the "rebels"?
Bullshit: [hrw.org]
Through phone and in-person interviews with witnesses and analysis of video footage, photographs, and posts on social media, Human Rights Watch documented government helicopters dropping chlorine in residential areas on at least eight occasions between November 17 and December 13, 2016. The attacks, some of which included multiple munitions, killed at least nine civilians, including four children, and injured around 200.
You sound like a 911 truther, randomly spouting shit that doesn't stand up to a second's worth of critical thought.
Stop spreading your stupid around here.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2017, @09:40AM (5 children)
They are when they know it'll result in international condemnation and intervention in a war they already won.
WHAT?
Two words: Saudi Arabia!
I recall reading an interview with the guy who toppled Saddams statue in Iraq, lamenting the stability of the old regime. Can you tell me why we invaded Iraq under false pretences instead of sanctioning Saudi Arabia?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2017, @02:38PM (4 children)
They are when they know it'll result in international condemnation and intervention in a war they already won.
WTF do they care about 'international condemnation?' And haven't you been paying attention? Just 5 days before the attack Trump said he didn't care what Assad does anymore.
Sarin in clothes
And those photographs have timestamps on them?
Furthermore that line from the wikipedia article cites a non-existent page at the CDC.
The actual page does not say anything about 30 minutes nor about clothing contacting sarin gas, only sarin liquid. [cdc.gov]
Two words: Saudi Arabia!
Ah, so you are a 911 truther. Nailed it.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2017, @07:17PM (3 children)
That is not what he said.
If inhaling Sarin will kill you within 10 minutes and it remains a serious risk for 30 minutes, how can the photos show what they claim to? I've since read it wasn't sarin [lrb.co.uk] but chlorine -- the rebels held (and possibly still do) the only chlorine facility in Syria.
Glad you agree that the 911 terrorists were predominately from and funded from within Saudi Arabia, [factcheck.org] and that the head of their organisation had close ties to the Saudi Royals. [wikipedia.org] It would, afterall, be foolish to deny such a thing. [reuters.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2017, @08:30PM (2 children)
> I've since read it wasn't sarin but chlorine -- the rebels held (and possibly still do) the only chlorine facility in Syria.
You just linked to an article from 2013.
How nucking futs do you have to be to think a 3 year old article applies to something that happened less than a week ago?
Don't bother replying, you've already answered that question.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2017, @11:42PM
Still [twimg.com] in [twimg.com] denial? [twimg.com]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 06 2017, @11:49PM
Here's some Oscar winning actors for you! [twimg.com] If you have any further questions, please address them to the closest mental health facility because Assad (disgusting as his regime is) had nothing to gain from using chemical weapons under the gaze of the international community. There are no "moderate rebels", only Wahhabist, child killing lunatics and their saudi-western backers.