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What is “lunch shaming?” It happens when a child can’t pay a school lunch bill.
In Alabama, a child short on funds was stamped on the arm with “I Need Lunch Money.” In some schools, children are forced to clean cafeteria tables in front of their peers to pay the debt. Other schools require cafeteria workers to take a child’s hot food and throw it in the trash if he doesn’t have the money to pay for it.
In what its supporters say is the first such legislation in the country, New Mexico has outlawed shaming children whose parents are behind on school lunch payments.
Source: The New York Times
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You can't have your cake and let your neighbor eat it too.
-- Ayn Rand
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @06:44PM (23 children)
You should've selected wealthy parents!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:04PM (5 children)
How about the parents driving Escalades, Hummers, MBZs, and BMWs who have their kids on the free lunch program and welfare?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:12PM (2 children)
Those parents pay tax just like others. Why shouldn't their kids get the same benefit?
Everyone pays, and everyone should benefit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:51PM (1 child)
So, what is your point?
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @08:30PM
Warren Buffet's grandsons get the same free lunch, just as kids with single moms busting balls to support their families, because the single moms pay tax just like Buffet. There is no shame, no sense of superiority, no sense of inferiority, at least as far as school lunch is concerned.
That is the point.
(Score: -1, Offtopic) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @10:10PM
There's also the other side of the fence... Welfare families spending their welfare check on drugs and beer while the kids don't have milk in the fridge. Trying to help them get a job results in "Why do you work when you could collect welfare like me?"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @01:29AM
How about the parents driving Escalades, Hummers, MBZs, and BMWs who have their kids on the free lunch program and welfare?
Yeah, that's definitely the common case.
We should totally design policy based on that.
(Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:05PM (8 children)
If your parents cannot even feed you, then they should not be your parents;
Put these kids in foster homes, or construct a robust governmental orphanage with uniforms, discipline, built-in schooling and vocational training.
You want to live on my dime, then you live by my rules!
(Score: 3, Touché) by NotSanguine on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:13PM (1 child)
Are you offering to be a foster parent?
No? Then your opinion as to how children should be raised is irrelevant.
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:27PM
Clearly his argument is invalidated because he's not performing the function you defined.
Want to raise taxes? Are you going to go out there with the gun and threaten people who don't pay? No? Then fuck off.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @08:12PM (2 children)
> You want to live on my dime, then you live by my rules!
And for contributing that single thin dime you get exactly one dime's worth of say in what those rules should be.
In other words, you've been outvoted.
Democracy, bitch!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @10:22PM (1 child)
One group telling another group what to do, under pain of violence for noncompliance.
Coercion is a barbaric, uncivilized, ancient system for organizing society.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @12:57AM
Coercion is a barbaric, uncivilized, ancient system for organizing society.
What a stupid and uneducated thing to say! Consider the "Life of Brian", Dungeon Scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EI7p2p1QJI [youtube.com]
Pertinent part of the dialogue:
"BEN: Now, take my case. They hung me up here five years ago. Every night, they take me down for twenty minutes, then they hang me up again, which I regard as very fair, in view of what I done, and, if nothing else, it's taught me to respect the Romans, and it's taught me... that you'll never get anywhere in this life, unless you're prepared to do a fair day's work for a fair day's pay! "
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Sunday April 09 2017, @08:33PM
Do you have any idea what kind of a festering hellhole of abuse, deprivation, and sex trafficking the foster system is? If you would wish that on any child, I can only hope *you* get reincarnated poor, and hopefully female and black, to a single mother, who tosses you out for being gay, and you end up "in the system." There is a reason social workers have such a high suicide rate.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2, Touché) by charon on Monday April 10 2017, @04:51AM (1 child)
Seriously, I have an absolutely 100% sincere question. What is stopping you from moving to Galt's Gulch, or Taxprotestia, or whatever you guys decide to name your land of the free? Upthread you mentioned Somalia was a bad example because there are scary warlords, socialism, and a failed state there. So what's keeping you people who didn't agree to be taxed (sorry, "stolen from at the point of a gun") from getting together and buying a nice tropical island where you can enter into free contracts with each other and not have to surrender a red cent for the common weal?
Wouldn't you guys just fucking love to make us nay-sayers eat crow when Libertarianania is kicking our asses economically? So, hop to it; time's a wasting.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @06:48PM
Because they're full of shit and they know it. Their libertarian dream only works with the resources society has created so far. They don't want to put in the hard work and create a functioning society, they just want to bootstrap off the existing one to suit their own ideologies. How do you pay for firemen and police? Only the rich would be protected since only they could finance the tens of thousands of dollars it would cost per incident. Only the rich could call the police, for most people it would cost more to file a police report than their property was probably worth. Assault? Ha, suck it up restraining orders cost like $50k after the police and lawyers are done, not to mention ongoing enforcement costs.
They utterly fail to see that "voluntary" agreements mean that almost no one will pay taxes, the various government services will collapse almost overnight, and they have zero plan to account for such a crisis. The average person would not be able to afford these services, hell a lot of people don't want an ambulance called due to the thousands of dollars it would cost them! This troll is the one who can't seem to "get it" and so we should stop trying to help them. It will take a major personal crisis or exposure to societies actual problems, this internet discussion does nothing for the extremely close minded.
Hell, from discussions on here I became vastly more supportive of the 2nd amendment, but this troll.... ain't nothing I can say to change that face. Some people you just have to wait until their worldview bubble gets popped, until then they are operating on so many assumptions that it would take weeks to review the facts and educate them to the point where they could see why they were wrong.
(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Sunday April 09 2017, @07:19PM (7 children)
You are so right - taking food from a grocery store without paying for it should be allowed when you're hungry. I mean, think of the children!!!
If farmer Bob can't afford to feed himself with everyone taking all of his food that he toiled to create for free, then he needs to stop being a racist and work harder. No, the kid's parents don't need to work harder, why would they? That makes no sense at all!
Show no mercy to any person who is willing to live within their means!!!!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @08:10PM
Show no mercy to any person who is willing to live within their means!!!!
Yeah! F****ng tight-wad Scrooges! I say take all their money, and all their dog's money, too! I say we make these selfish hoarders so poor they have to rely on free school lunches for their kids! And then we will take away their health insurance! Ha ha!!! That will show them! Oh, the agony of le petit bourgeousie and their "first world problems". Losers!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 09 2017, @08:25PM
You are so right - taking food from a grocery store without paying for it should be allowed when you're hungry. I mean, think of the children!!!
How effing twisted do you have to be to think that tax-payer funded school lunch directed by our duly elected representatives is the equivalent of stealing from the grocery?
Food stamps are also theft from the supermarket.
Driving on a public road is theft from toll-road owners.
Public education is theft from private schools.
Welfare housing is theft from rental property owners.
There is a part of your brain that is atrophied.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by NotSanguine on Sunday April 09 2017, @08:39PM (3 children)
--Anatole France
No, no, you're not thinking; you're just being logical. --Niels Bohr
(Score: 2) by linkdude64 on Monday April 10 2017, @03:37PM (2 children)
Way to quote a communist. I'm sure you're serious, so go live in a communist country, please.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @04:07PM (1 child)
I don't think I've ever seen such a blatantly unaware ad homenium on nerdy site.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday April 11 2017, @09:14AM
Shhh! Do NOT tell linkdude64 who Anatole France was, and definitely do not let on that you spelled "ad hominem" incorrectly. That much error is too much for one so unaware all on one day. (Hey! linkdude! Get an education! Knowing stuff is fun, and it doesn't make you look like an idiot!)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 10 2017, @02:32AM
We give them foodstamps so they don't have to steal. Because, honestly, I don't think I can condemn someone for stealing when they are starving to death.