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As it turns out, failure is an option:
During a panel discussion with other Apollo flight directors in Houston, Kranz was asked how NASA accomplished so much, so quickly, in the 1960s and early 1970s, but hasn't been back to deep space since then. By some accounts, in the decades following the Moon landings, NASA has succumbed to a "mind-numbing" bureaucracy and a "paralyzing" cultural requirement for perfection, especially after two space shuttle accidents. Kranz said NASA benefited from a different culture in the 1960s.
"It was an environment in which we were more capable of accepting risk as a nation," Kranz replied. "Space involves risk, and I think that's the one thing about Elon Musk and all the various space entrepreneurs: they're willing to risk their future in order to accomplish the objective that they have decided on. I think we as a nation have to learn that, as an important part of this, to step forward and accept risk."
(Score: 3, Interesting) by kaszz on Saturday April 15 2017, @03:14PM (18 children)
So I can't have my safe space up there and be left alone without all life support systems triggering my attention!? I will call my humans matter in space organization to sue, space for cruel behavior!
Remember in space not even air molecules will bump into you. It will take your breath away ;-)
If NASA can't deal with risk. They need to chop those bureaucrats and perfectionist types. Seems like those are the kinds of people that are attracted to successful projects. But can't ever come create one of their own. That's why free enterprise is so important and why America thrive on it. Because it lets people loose the organizational dead weight wet blanket of must-follow-the-book, can't-do and we-never-heard-of-that types.
Also points out how important the right mindset among everybody relevant in a organization matters.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday April 15 2017, @04:12PM (15 children)
Wrong verb tense detected, a past form would be advisable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Saturday April 15 2017, @04:29PM (14 children)
So it might be unfortunately. Any idea where the best settings for free enterprise exists today?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 15 2017, @05:33PM (6 children)
Probably somewhere with a strong social safety net so that people can choose to be entrepreneurs instead of wage slaves.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 16 2017, @05:34AM (5 children)
But USA in 1800-1900 when a lot of the industrial powerhouse were built did not include any safety net asfaik?
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday April 16 2017, @01:49PM (4 children)
Yes, there still was room for expansion and there were new riches to plunder.
But you've reached the Pacific coast, where else you wanna expand now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 16 2017, @09:06PM (3 children)
Space is the obvious place to get hold of minerals and energy. Besides the deep bottoms of the seas are still unexplored.
Another approach is to heat up the budgets for "blue sky" projects and increase the chance for new technologies that gives options for whole new ways to accomplish things.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday April 17 2017, @08:42AM (2 children)
The space belong to corporations, mate. Not to waggon colonists with (black)smithing abilities - too deep a gravitation hole.
But, who knows, maybe somebody actually invents the Shipstone battery and open-sources it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday April 17 2017, @09:36AM (1 child)
What's a shipstone battery?
Btw, corporations will likely need someone to run those space machines. Remote control nor AI will cut it for far away operations.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday April 17 2017, @10:33AM
If it's Shipstone, it's Friday [wikipedia.org]
For a Google-search, try:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Sunday April 16 2017, @01:56PM (6 children)
There's plenty of room at the bottom.
1. buy yourself a piece of land
2. teach yourself robotics
3. buy components straight from china and build your agricultural robots and energy bank.
4. you may not have profit, but surely you may continue to live well enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 16 2017, @09:10PM (5 children)
Indeed interesting. Changes the dependency scheme completely. Especially the bargaining rules.
But how do you handle corporations or government that tries a eminent domain on your property? or just put some poison industry next door etc. It may require moving.
Then there's what do if one gets sick.
(Score: 2) by takyon on Monday April 17 2017, @02:51AM (1 child)
Nanomachines, son!
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(Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday April 17 2017, @04:03AM
That's a science that is not really ready for that level of usage.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday April 17 2017, @08:36AM (2 children)
"Just compensation" should sweeten the deal; as my advice caters for "robotic subsistence farming" - as opposed to "agribusiness" - you should be able to move them in a different place.
BTW, the original choice of the spot should minimize the risk of eminent domaining.
Telecommute in the spare time to build your golden nest. May be a problem, I know.
I'm currently at point 2, didn't give up my daily job though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday April 17 2017, @09:34AM (1 child)
When you say golden nest. Maybe you are on to something. A private fort knox would be neat, secured income for life provided it's large enough.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday April 17 2017, @10:40AM
Heh... sorta. The variety is called "April Gold" :) The species is Castanea Sativa.
A good start for a weekend/hobby farm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 16 2017, @12:59AM (1 child)
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 16 2017, @05:54AM
Interesting article on the JWST [scienceblogs.com] telescope. Seems congress is bad but NASA itself also seem to do things in a manner that induce large costs. Which has been obvious in plans for manned Mars missions at least. Specifically the 1990 paper by Robert Zubrin compared to NASAs plan. Seems no NASA plan can go ahead unless it provides funding for all pet projects of various people at said institution.
Private space industry will probably loosen this. Otoh, it can also be a curse and perverted incentives.