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The FBI and DoJ Were Granted a FISA Warrant to Monitor a Trump Campaign Aide Last Summer
A FISA warrant was obtained to monitor Trump campaign aide Carter Page before the election:
The FBI obtained a warrant to secretly surveil former Donald Trump aide Carter Page last summer under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), according to a Tuesday Washington Post report.
The FBI and Justice Department demonstrated probable cause that Page is acting on behalf of a foreign state in order to be granted the warrant.
The FISA warrant was part of the FBI's investigation into possible ties between Russia and Trump campaign associates, law enforcement and U.S. officials told the Post.
"This confirms all of my suspicions about unjustified, politically motivated government surveillance," Page told the Post Tuesday. "I have nothing to hide."
Page has not been accused of committing a crime.
Also at MarketWatch.
DiGenova: Rice Ordered 'Spreadsheets' on Calls Involving Trump, Aides
Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard
Former President Barack Obama's national security adviser Susan Rice ordered U.S. spy agencies to produce "detailed spreadsheets" of legal phone calls involving Donald Trump and his aides when he was running for president, according to former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova.
"What was produced by the intelligence community at the request of Ms. Rice were detailed spreadsheets of intercepted phone calls with unmasked Trump associates in perfectly legal conversations with individuals," diGenova told The Daily Caller News Foundation Investigative Group Monday.
[...] Other official sources with direct knowledge and who requested anonymity confirmed to TheDCNF diGenova's description of surveillance reports Rice ordered one year before the 2016 presidential election.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Monday April 17 2017, @05:33PM (11 children)
Words matter to English majors and "journalists." Nobody else gives a shit. They watch actions.
And because so many of those running around exclaiming, "Trump lies!" are Hillary dead-enders, it bears pointing out that Hillary could not even tell the truth about having a cold.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday April 17 2017, @05:53PM (10 children)
Which part of this quote is actually true?
Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 17 2017, @06:21PM (9 children)
Doesn't matter which parts of the statement are true, or untrue. The fact that members of the Trump campaign were under surveillance is all that matters. How big a step is it from suveillance for political reasons, to political prisoners is it?
I find the idea of political prisoners extremely distasteful, no matter which part of the spectrum the prisoners come from. But, IF that sort of thing is ever to happen, I hope to hell the right side makes the first move. Lock up every sumbitch who has ever studied Saul Alinsky, before the people who have studied Saul locks the rest of us up.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Monday April 17 2017, @06:50PM (1 child)
As far as I see it, anybody that wants to lock you up for what you believe is not the right side. The people who want to throw Mexicans and Muslims out of the country because their skin is brown are not the right side. People who think black people who should be summarily executed by cops because they're black, are not the right side. But neither are the people, who think the government can help itself to your property or bank account at any time, the right side. People, who think they get to tell everybody else what to do because they are the intelligensia and you are suffering from false consciousness, are not the right side.
Where is the side for the people who want an honest day's pay for an honest day's work? Where is the side for the people who want to do cool new things and build mankind up, without banks, cartels, the government, or the titular mafia trying to shake them down? Where is the side for people who want to be free, and who want rules and laws to apply equally to everyone?
I know there are those who will naively (or cynically) claim that's the Republicans. Others will claim that's the Democrats. But if you've ever been inside the Beltway you'll know that's fantasy; all of them are in on it. Objectivists come in at this point, usually, and say they're the answer, but their philosophy rather boils down to, "screw you, I got mine."
Why isn't there an alternative that supports what I believe, and which I know so many other people believe, too?
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Hyperturtle on Monday April 17 2017, @10:50PM
Because they often give up. You find few of them because the outspoken ones have moved on after recognizing the futility of various matters. Or they barricaded themselves into a bubble they have created and pretend. Or they are arrested and taken away.
Individuals often have little power. There are two things they can do, though, generally speaking.
To paraphrase a fortune, the strong give up and walk away; the weak give up and stay.
People more often than not seem to choose to give up and stay. It is one of the reasons why good people are bad when they choose to do nothing. Little has been written about what is to be done about the good people that left. It used to be they would come to the USA.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by aristarchus on Monday April 17 2017, @10:49PM (6 children)
Doesn't matter which parts of the statement are true, or untrue. The fact that members of the Trump campaign were operating as agents of a foreign power is all that matters.
FTFY, Runaway. Tell us again how treason is just "an alternative political opinion".
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 18 2017, @01:08AM (5 children)
So, you're justifying McCarthyism now?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 18 2017, @03:51AM (2 children)
We need actual details before we claim it is one thing or another. You calling it McCarthyism is just parroting a lying sociopath.
So, how about we wait for actual facts to come out? Also, investigating the Trump administration is a very different thing than the overly broad witch hunt of McCarthy.
To address your concern however, it is important to find out the facts. If laws were broken then we can all get bent out of shape, but if laws were broken by Trump then I hope you push for prison sentences...
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 18 2017, @02:54PM (1 child)
The Great Orange One isn't my boy - I voted for Johnson. Do I want to see criminals in prison? Of course I do - it doesn't matter to me what party they might be affiliated with. But - figure the odds. When was the last time a president was successfully impeached?
https://www.thoughtco.com/presidents-who-were-impeached-3368130 [thoughtco.com]
by Tom Murse
Updated February 06, 2017
Only two presidents have been impeached in United States history, and neither was convicted of the charges filed against him. No president has been convicted of the charges filed against him during impeachment proceedings.
And aside from conviction on impeachment charges, there is no mechanism set forth in the U.S. Constitution that allows for the removal of a failing president. Impeachment is used against a president only when there is evidence of "high crimes and misdemeanors."
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday April 19 2017, @06:56PM
"treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors." to be more precise.
Interesting choice to specifically mention the first two (as opposed to mangle them together with the other "high crimes")
An article [crf-usa.org] I found interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Tuesday April 18 2017, @05:18AM (1 child)
You are just so ignorant that nothing ever gets by you, Runaway. You are aiding and abetting enemies of the United States of America, which is neither here nor there for me, but didn't you take some oath or another at some point that would keep you from supporting a Trump administration, at pain of loss of your sacred honor, and possibly your life? (Russians do not mess around, Runaway, look up a movie called "Eastern Promises".)
So, no, I am not calling for a House Un-american Activities Committee, I am calling for one of two, no, three things. Either a) Runaway learns to recognize how ignorant, stupid, uneducated, and used by the alt-right he is, and apologies and reduces his frequency of posting to SN by a factor of ten, or b) Trump be impeached and charged with treason, bad taste, eating pizza with a fork, and having forced several models to marry him, or c) a Moscow show trial, where we know the defendant is guilty, we just need to make a big deal of it! McCarthy wanted something like that, but the American legal system would only let him get away with character assassination, innendo, and paranoia about Communist mind control and something in the water. (Ever see a commie drink water, Mandrake? No? They are after my precious bodily fluids! "Dr. Strangelove").
So that is what I call for, you ignorant Arkansaw hillbilly: How do you plead?
[By the way, the protections of the legal system do not apply to counter-intelligence, which Runaway would not know since he fails at just intelligence. Of course, if the spy agencies use extra-judicial methods, and even a FISA court warrant is arguably in that category, the evidence cannot be used to prosecute the target of surveillance. See: Gitmo Terrorists, inadmissible evidence, unless we come up with special tribunal, George W Bush, proprietor. This is why the tagline to this post is pure garbage. Does not matter that the traitor Carter Page has been charged with nothing. Person of interest. Possible foreign agent. Could be a lizard person. Possibly a HRC plant. ]
(Score: 1, Offtopic) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday April 18 2017, @02:50PM
"How do you plead?"
I plead that you shut your pie hole, cut out your tongue and cut off all of your fingers, give away all of your electronic devices, and move to some place out of the way, like, Bangladesh, or Ethiopia.