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posted by on Wednesday April 19 2017, @07:39AM   Printer-friendly
from the Free-as-in-TANSTAAFL dept.

Fedora is drafting a new mission statement. The new initial proposal:

Fedora creates an innovative platform that lights up hardware, clouds, and containers for software developers and community members to build tailored solutions for their users.

The original goal was:

to work with the Linux community to build a complete, general purpose operating system exclusively from open source software.

Is saying open, or free, openly (excuse the pun) becoming something to be ashamed of? Are project ditching their ideals? Fedora barely mentioned free (or Free, to be more clear), but now it's even more vague. It's like if had to be reminded over and over to those in charge, as the triggered thread demostrates.


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:18AM (14 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:18AM (#496193)

    Tyranny is being pushed on us VERY hard, the initial comments to this story are just another salvo from some group trying to push an agenda. There is an effort to pushy dictatorships, get rid of democracy, and now get rid of people building things for each other as a community. If your business model can't compete with the efforts of some programmers who donate their time, well then you deserve to fail. Come up with a viable business that people will actually pay for.

    The assault on Linux began a while back, Microsoft failed with Novell so they got more sneaky, using subterfuge and planting developers into key projects. I'm sure it is bigger than just MS, probably some coalition of bigwigs who wear sweater vests.

    Go home, trix are for kids.

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  • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:26AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:26AM (#496195)

    Fedora has changed focus from free software to hosted cloud platforms, because Fedora failed. There's no money in free software. Free software is not a business model.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:40AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:40AM (#496198)

      Redhat is the enterprise edition, Fedora is the non profit community edition. Since you can't even figure out some of the most basic stuff it is obvious you're trolling for a soapbox to push your own ideologies. Like those door to door Mormons spreading the "good word."

      Now it does seem like fedora might be pushing for a more standard business model but I didn't see much talk about specific monetization.

      • (Score: 2) by epitaxial on Wednesday April 19 2017, @12:52PM (3 children)

        by epitaxial (3165) on Wednesday April 19 2017, @12:52PM (#496264)

        Speaking of Redhat. How do you sell Linux and license it? If you bought Redhat in the past it entitled you to support. Now you are given a license key. If the source is made available what is stopping someone from releasing a "free" Redhat distro with the license key stripped out?

        • (Score: 2) by SDRefugee on Wednesday April 19 2017, @01:10PM

          by SDRefugee (4477) on Wednesday April 19 2017, @01:10PM (#496273)

          Ummm CentOS???

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        • (Score: 4, Informative) by termigator on Wednesday April 19 2017, @01:57PM

          by termigator (4271) on Wednesday April 19 2017, @01:57PM (#496298)

          Nothing, hence the existence of CentOS.

          Interestingly, CentOS is now part of Redhat.

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by HiThere on Wednesday April 19 2017, @05:28PM

          by HiThere (866) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday April 19 2017, @05:28PM (#496434) Journal

          The thing stopping people is that it's a lot of work. A few people and groups have done this. Several have mentioned CentOS, but there also is (or was, I don't keep current) WhiteBox Linux, and Scientific Linux. There have been others in the past, like KRUD Linux and Pink Tie Linux, and there may be others currently that I just haven't noticed.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:35AM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:35AM (#496196)

    some group trying to push an agenda

    Some group is the GNU Project, and some agenda is Make Software Free. Every time an Open Source company goes out of business, the Free Software Foundation wins.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:43AM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:43AM (#496200)

      That is the opposite of what I said and not even true. From Scruffy's link above you can read about the difference between OSS and Free Software, and it specifically says OSS is not the enemy.

      Stop with the low effort jabs, at least try to appear informed.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @12:06PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @12:06PM (#496253)

        This is probably one guy who's trying to be an intern at Microsoft showing off how much he "gets it" and all that crap, even though he very clearly doesn't and conveniently ignores much of the argument in favor of his two-sentence narrative. I don't think he's going to convince anyone of anything other than perhaps that he's a douchebag.

        • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @05:39PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @05:39PM (#496439)

          Try for bitter free software developer who has large projects out there under the GPL. Try software developer who has seen absolutely no benefit in contributing to free software for decades. Try disillusioned member of your free software movement who has learned to hate everything about your evangelical movement. But you wouldn't understand because for stupid shit like you, this is a tribalism issue, and your tribe is always right. There's no possibility of convincing you of anything because you're fucking brainwashed.

          • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @05:59PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @05:59PM (#496450)

            Plenty of people are getting paid to write free software. Your social skills might have something to do with why your life is a wreck. Have you been divorced too? Paying alimony right now? Gonna blame that on free software?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:44AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @08:44AM (#496201)

      Better watch out, I hear they consort with Satan himself to make that happen.

  • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @12:33PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @12:33PM (#496260)

    I find it irritating that you keep using this stupid phrase.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:02PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @03:02PM (#496335)

      Good!