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posted by on Wednesday April 19 2017, @07:39AM   Printer-friendly
from the Free-as-in-TANSTAAFL dept.

Fedora is drafting a new mission statement. The new initial proposal:

Fedora creates an innovative platform that lights up hardware, clouds, and containers for software developers and community members to build tailored solutions for their users.

The original goal was:

to work with the Linux community to build a complete, general purpose operating system exclusively from open source software.

Is saying open, or free, openly (excuse the pun) becoming something to be ashamed of? Are project ditching their ideals? Fedora barely mentioned free (or Free, to be more clear), but now it's even more vague. It's like if had to be reminded over and over to those in charge, as the triggered thread demostrates.


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  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by Lagg on Wednesday April 19 2017, @09:17AM (4 children)

    by Lagg (105) on Wednesday April 19 2017, @09:17AM (#496211) Homepage Journal

    I don't know what the fuck is up with the insane ACs. But for what it's worth I think it can just as likely be that it's no longer a concept that matters to people due to overuse by projects that don't deserve such labeling as "open" and "free".

    I saw a vaporizer called oPen.Vape. Because it's a pen get it. The government uses "open source" in a way easily confused with what we know to be open source. What GNU and the FSF have turned into in terms of licensing and project priority taking a backseat to politics have lead to them not being anything I think of as open source or free software that's for goddamn sure. Plethora of other examples I'm too lazy to think of.

    Oh and RedHat has long stopped really "Working" with the community as such. It would make sense for Fedora to do the same.

    Users also do not currently and have not generally in the past cared about open source software. I think these days Stallman is partly to thank for that because he presented himself like a hippy but turned out to be yet another evangelical preacher. The next best bet is Eric but he's a googly eyed weirdo (I love him to death,but you know that's what people think) and his reputation seems to have suffered because people think he's arrogant? Which is funny to me because of all programmers next to Linus he has the right to be. Even if he was a perfectly sociable guy he still has his own non-sound-biteable politics. As we all do.

    Oh, and there is something of an issue with people trying to overreach and trying to inflict authoritarianism onto hackers. Which is a really stupid fucking idea. But they want to do it anyway. See Intel. When people are presented with policies like that, the first response is generally: "I thought this was free software". Can't really compromise the conflict between freedom/free lovin' and oppressive project policies. So why not just remove that bit entirely so it can't be cited.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @09:28AM (3 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @09:28AM (#496213)

    Don't forget Alan Cox who looks exactly like a homeless bum.

    Corporations have usurped "open source" as just another profit motive, and nobody ever cared about "free software" except college socialists and wide-eyed hippie idealists who swear post-scarcity communism will happen just like the manifesto promised.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @09:39AM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @09:39AM (#496214)

      Liar! Alan Cox isn't homeless. See here's a photo of him cooking inside an indoors kitchen.

      https://nathan.chantrell.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/alan-cooking.jpg [chantrell.net]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @05:57PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 19 2017, @05:57PM (#496449)

        Photo from 8 years ago proves nothing. Alan Cocks could very well be homeless now, living under a bridge, and eating garbage.

    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Wednesday April 19 2017, @09:43AM

      by kaszz (4211) on Wednesday April 19 2017, @09:43AM (#496216) Journal

      Forget green washing, now we have open and free washing. Corporations are money vampires by definition at least when it comes to public shareholder corporations. And they should be treated as such. Corporate friendly but carry a horrible stick.