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posted by martyb on Sunday April 23 2017, @05:42AM   Printer-friendly
from the reality-and-perception dept.

During the cold war, there was a clear narrative: an ideological opposition between the US and the Soviet Union. Moments of great tension were understood as episodes within that narrative. The closest we came to nuclear confrontation was the 1962 Cuban missile crisis, when the two countries seemed on the edge of war. But the crisis itself was finished inside a fortnight, and there was a wider framework to fall back on. The 1963 Partial Test Ban Treaty calmed the waters.

Then, in the early 1980s the tough-talking but critically derided , Ronald Reagan was elected US president. He reignited the cold war rhetoric and began escalating the arms race, and there was an assumption – particularly in Europe – that nuclear destruction was creeping closer. But it was still within a recognisable context. That ended with the collapse of communism, and the fall of the Berlin Wall. For a while the world felt a much safer place than it had been.

But the cold war was replaced by uncertainty. And now the uncertainty is combined with the unpredictability of Donald Trump. The recent bombing raids in Syria and Afghanistan were isolated moments, without any sense of programme or continuity. Nor does there seem any logic to why North Korea should have suddenly become a pressing issue. Incidents that seem to arrive out of the blue can be much more frightening. We're probably not on the verge of nuclear war, but it's destabilising if we can't make sense of events.

Is the world more dangerous now than during the cold war?

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What do you think ?


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  • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Runaway1956 on Sunday April 23 2017, @11:30AM (7 children)

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 23 2017, @11:30AM (#498279) Journal

    Well, hell yes it is. Warlords in various places routinely raid villages, towns, and even (smallish) cities. A number of (somewhat small) wars continue around the world.

    Is the world more dangerous today, than in days past? Hmmm - depends on the specific date(s) you may have in mind. Possibly, but probably not.

    One of the things that comes to my mind, regarding the relative danger of life, is the US/UK disregard for danger. We saw Iraq invaded, and their way of life destroyed. We saw DAESH pretty much arise from those ruins. And, the western world wants to re-enact the destruction of Iraq in Syria. Do we really expect the results to be any different? What was it Einstein said about insanity?

    Overall, relatively speaking, I don't think the world is any more dangerous than it was two, or five decades ago. Or course, it is no safer, either. Anything can happen. Any number of sparks could flame into a raging inferno, with little or no warning.

    I'm sure that the greatest danger today comes from 1, North Korea, 2, Islam, and 3, China.

    1, North Korea, has a madman at the helm who has sworn to destroy the West.
    2, Islam has a number of leaders (some rational, others positively insane zealots) who have sworn their factions to the destruction of everything non-Islamic.
    3, China has it's Assassin's Mace policy, and is sworn to dominate the US militarily, economically, and politically within 20 years. Alright, so they're already ten years late, but they are getting closer to their goal with each passing year.

    People, the world never was a safe, cozy place. And, it isn't getting any safer, or any cozier, as time passes.

    Those of you who remember a safer time, were merely ignorant of the true state of the world at that time. Those of you who believe the world to be a safe place today, simply remain ignorant.

    US politics? Once again, we dodged a bullet, in that Clinton would have been more than happy to light a fuse in Syria, with or without any provocation. Trump? As I predicted, he's the Court Fool. He hasn't taken a real stance on Syria, but he allowed himself to be manipulated into shooting a bunch of missiles into Syria. He really doesn't have a clue what is happening there, or why it is important. The big dummy just took a few shots because his advisors told him that he should.

    Remember that famous Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times.

    Solutions? Let's shoot all the lawyers. Then, we shoot everyone in the US military industrial complex. Then, we shoot all the SJW's and all those progressive organizations doing "good works" in Backwoods, Fuckistan. Without the western dollars propping them up, all the shitty raghead regimes like Saudi Arabia would quickly collapse, then Islam would have to collectively decide where they are going, and how they plan on getting there. Then, we would know how to deal with them.

    Dangerous. Yes - but not exactly the reasons offered by the media and all the progressive apologists.

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  • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Sunday April 23 2017, @01:39PM (6 children)

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Sunday April 23 2017, @01:39PM (#498321) Journal

    You were going to get a mod point until you went full retard after solutions.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @01:58PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 23 2017, @01:58PM (#498328)

      It's OK I gave him a -1.

      Rambling fool who watches cnn or fox news 6hr a day and thinks he's the geopolitical mastermind. sure you are, old man, sure you are.

      • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:23PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:23PM (#498354) Journal

        And, you're another damned fool running his own mouth. Which part of "don't own a television" have you failed to understand? Or, "Don't watch television". Or, "Can't stand the idiocy put out by Hollyweird"?

        What do YOU watch, may I ask? Do you restrict yourself to MSM's "reliable" sources, like ABC, NBC, CBS, Ted Turner, and Patty Hearst? Yeah - they are reliable. They reliably feed you shit.

    • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:24PM (3 children)

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:24PM (#498356) Journal

      Full retard, huh? Who, exactly, is it that screws the world up, time and time again? Think about it for awhile.

      • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:53PM

        by LoRdTAW (3755) on Sunday April 23 2017, @03:53PM (#498372) Journal

        We saw Iraq invaded, and their way of life destroyed. We saw DAESH pretty much arise from those ruins.

        Without the western dollars propping them up, all the shitty raghead regimes like Saudi Arabia would quickly collapse

      • (Score: 3, Touché) by dry on Monday April 24 2017, @02:44AM

        by dry (223) on Monday April 24 2017, @02:44AM (#498632) Journal

        America, the country you forgot to put at the top of your list up the page. They're just about the only country that routinely wages war all over the globe, have a system which gives one man way too much power and have a lot of power to give him. There's other nutcases, but generally they can't do much.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 24 2017, @09:15AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 24 2017, @09:15AM (#498726)
        Exactly why North Korea shouldn't be number 1 on your list. They probably aren't even top 3.

        1) The greatest danger probably comes from the USA. The Military Industrial complex you mentioned. I can't even recall a single good thing the CIA has done. The USA has probably overthrown more democracies than it has helped install.
        2) Trump is not exactly the most stable of persons. If the US system works as designed[1] there's nothing preventing him from launching nukes other than himself. Can you say there's no way he'd launch nukes for stupid/bad reasons?

        North Korea is like a toddler with a BB gun. Might put someone's eye out but the rest of the world will be fine.
        The USA is like a toddler with nukes. Trump has a really bad day, throws a tantrum and much of the world won't be fine.

        [1] An insane and stupid design.