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posted by martyb on Sunday April 23 2017, @07:13AM   Printer-friendly
from the What-do-YOU-use? dept.

FossaMail ( https://www.fossamail.org/ ) announced that they will be shutting down next month, and I must search for a replacement email program again. So far, my research for replacements found Claws Mail, and Slypheed, but are there any other stand alone email programs that are being updated? One other requirement is PGP support for encrypted messages.


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by maxwell demon on Sunday April 23 2017, @11:21AM (10 children)

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday April 23 2017, @11:21AM (#498276) Journal

    I'm not sure what exactly you need that custom From header for, but you can configure several identities for a single email account. I definitely have posted through the same email provider, using the same email account, with different From headers. It certainly is sufficient for my purposes; YMMV.

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  • (Score: 1) by Deeo Kain on Sunday April 23 2017, @05:33PM (9 children)

    by Deeo Kain (5848) on Sunday April 23 2017, @05:33PM (#498409)

    The fact that you cannot understand of what use are RFC-compliant custom headers is like programmers that close bugs with "Works for me". Hell, your PC, OS and settings are not the same as every other one's on Earth!
    Some domains of mine have email catch-all accounts. A few times I want to answer email sent to a non-existent, disabled or black-holed account to make sure the sender did not just mistype the recipient address for a legitimate email without giving out an actual account I use. I do *not* want to have hundreds of valid accounts on my email-servers to do this just because blockhead Thunderbird thinks it's smarter than I or because it wants to play SJW or it thinks it has a duty in policing the Internet and it's users. What I want to do is both legal and RFC-compliant, so pleeease, PC-ness drenched Thunderbird developers, stay out of the way, concentrate on the protocols and in a no-nonsense and congruous UI, deliver a stable and solid MUA and
    *STOP* pissing people with your policing their user experience!

    • (Score: 1) by Deeo Kain on Sunday April 23 2017, @05:49PM (6 children)

      by Deeo Kain (5848) on Sunday April 23 2017, @05:49PM (#498418)

      I forgot to mention, there's nothing wrong with configuring an email account while off-line.

      • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday April 23 2017, @07:33PM (5 children)

        by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday April 23 2017, @07:33PM (#498473) Journal

        There was no need to mention that, as I nowhere claimed there were something wrong with it.

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        • (Score: 1) by Deeo Kain on Sunday April 23 2017, @08:23PM (4 children)

          by Deeo Kain (5848) on Sunday April 23 2017, @08:23PM (#498496)

          If only could you get that thick Mozilla crapola out of your skull you'd understand configuring an email account is impossible with plain-vanilla Thunderbird. You need third-party addons, for Jeezus f**king sake!
          As something technical is been discussed about Thunderbird's UI, let your useless and distracting "I'm not sure what exactly you need that custom From header for," innuendo out of the way as it has no role in determining what TB developers had in their minds other than beans when they decided you can only configure existent email addresses and that you must be online to add accounts.

          • (Score: 2) by maxwell demon on Sunday April 23 2017, @08:31PM

            by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday April 23 2017, @08:31PM (#498500) Journal

            If only could you get that thick Mozilla crapola out of your skull

            Do you suffer from Tourette syndome?

            you'd understand configuring an email account is impossible with plain-vanilla Thunderbird.

            Where did I say anything that contradicts this? I wasn't talking about that question AT ALL!

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 24 2017, @05:14AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 24 2017, @05:14AM (#498660)

            Take a chill pill. Step away from the keyboard and go for walk, and read this thread again in an 2-3 hours. Bust that stress.

          • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday April 24 2017, @10:27PM (1 child)

            If only could you get that thick Mozilla crapola out of your skull you'd understand configuring an email account is impossible with plain-vanilla Thunderbird. You need third-party addons, for Jeezus f**king sake!
            As something technical is been discussed about Thunderbird's UI, let your useless and distracting "I'm not sure what exactly you need that custom From header for," innuendo out of the way as it has no role in determining what TB developers had in their minds other than beans when they decided you can only configure existent email addresses and that you must be online to add accounts.

            Your tone is combative. You ignorance is obvious. You're the poster boy for "'tis better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."

            I own a variety of domains which have wildcard email associated with them. For any email addresses that I know I'll need to send email from, I create an additional "identity" within my primary email account. This is what Maxwell Daemon [soylentnews.org] was talking about.

            What's more, vanilla Thunderbird absolutely allows you to set a custom "From:" header:
            1. Begin composing new email
            2. Click on From: field
            3. Select "Customize From: Address" at bottom of drop-down
            4. Read (or don't) dialog about potential ISP restrictions on custom email addreses and click "Ok"
            5. Enter custom email address.
            6. ...
            7. Profit!

            TL;DR: You're talking out of your ass and it smells that way too.

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            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 25 2017, @01:41PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 25 2017, @01:41PM (#499284)

              Also, about the "configure account while offline" part:

              - Open the "Add new email account" dialog
              - Fill in the data and click "Next"
              - Stop the server guessing. The dialog appends new boxes to fill in the values for ingoing and outgoing servers, protocols and usernames. Fill them in as needed.
              - Once everything is filled in, click "Advanced configuration" instead of "Done".
              - Profit!

              Not the most intuitive way to do it, but can be done.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by maxwell demon on Sunday April 23 2017, @07:24PM

      by maxwell demon (1608) on Sunday April 23 2017, @07:24PM (#498469) Journal

      The fact that you cannot understand of what use are RFC-compliant custom headers

      Maybe you should try to read and understand posts before you reply to them. I did not write I cannot understand the value of custom headers, I wrote that I do not know your use case and therefore cannot tell how well Thunderbirds ability to specify different ones for the same email account (which it does have, and which, as I wrote, I do use myself) does or does not fit your use case. From what I knew at that point, there was a chance it would have fit and that it was only your lack of knowledge about it (and the rest of your reply indeed proves that you do lack knowledge about it, so at least that assumption was not wrong).

      is like programmers that close bugs with "Works for me".

      From your apparent lack of reading comprehension, I think you are the one of us who would be more likely to inappropriately close a bug report, for the reason that you simply didn't understand it correctly.

      Hell, your PC, OS and settings are not the same as every other one's on Earth!

      Nor did I claim so. You may have noticed the use of "YMMV" in my post (if you didn't notice it, then see my suggestion above: read the posts before you reply to them). In case you didn't know what those letters mean, I urgently advise you to learn that meaning. Hint: It means that your sentence I just quoted (and the implicit insult it carries) was completely uncalled for.

      Some domains of mine have email catch-all accounts. A few times I want to answer email sent to a non-existent, disabled or black-holed account to make sure the sender did not just mistype the recipient address for a legitimate email without giving out an actual account I use.

      Yes, that's certainly a legitimate use case, and I can see that the interface Thunderbird offers is awkward for that use case. However I'm sure that I'm not alone with my use case, and there's a certain chance that my post describing is has helped at least one other reader here.

      I do *not* want to have hundreds of valid accounts on my email-servers to do this just because [insults to Thunderbird developers omitted]

      Nor do you need them. As I wrote in my previous post I myself use different From headers (BTW with completely different mail addresses, which do not even have the same domain name) with the very same account. Now in my case it's a fixed number of mail addresses, therefore the interface Thunderbird offers is perfectly useful for my use case. I see that it is less useful for your use case, although certainly not impossible to use.

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    • (Score: 2) by urza9814 on Monday April 24 2017, @03:04PM

      by urza9814 (3954) on Monday April 24 2017, @03:04PM (#498872) Journal

      Some domains of mine have email catch-all accounts. A few times I want to answer email sent to a non-existent, disabled or black-holed account to make sure the sender did not just mistype the recipient address for a legitimate email without giving out an actual account I use. I do *not* want to have hundreds of valid accounts on my email-servers to do this just because blockhead Thunderbird thinks it's smarter than I or because it wants to play SJW or it thinks it has a duty in policing the Internet and it's users.

      Huh? This sounds like exactly what I do with Thunderbird every day. I've got a number of wildcard addresses, a couple specific noreply addresses, a few addresses that route only to special systems. I can send an email from any of those addresses through Thunderbird even through a totally different account just by typing the address in the from field, you don't even need to create an account identity anymore, and you certainly don't need to verify ownership or anything. What exactly do you think is missing?