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posted by Fnord666 on Tuesday April 25 2017, @08:54PM   Printer-friendly
from the OBIPP? dept.

The Liberal premier of Ontario announced details of the Ontario Basic Income Pilot. The provincial government issued a press release saying

Three regions will take part in the study. Pilots will start in late spring in Hamilton, including Brantford and Brant County; and in Thunder Bay and the surrounding area. The third pilot will start by this fall [autumn] in Lindsay.

The Basic Income model Ontario has developed will ensure that eligible participants receive:

        Up to $16,989 per year for a single person, less 50 per cent of any earned income
        Up to $24,027 per year for a couple, less 50 per cent of any earned income
        Up to an additional $6,000 per year for a person with a disability.

[...] The three test regions will host 4,000 participants eligible to receive a basic income payment, between the ages of 18 to 64. By late spring, people in these areas will begin receiving information about the pilot and how to participate. The province is partnering with these communities and other experts to make sure that the Ontario Basic Income Pilot is fair, effective, and scientifically valid.

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related story:
Ontario is Starting a Universal Basic Income Pilot


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  • (Score: 2) by http on Wednesday April 26 2017, @01:31AM (6 children)

    by http (1920) on Wednesday April 26 2017, @01:31AM (#499752)

    Unions are tangential to the point I'm making, but you're only underlining my point: without ganging up, workers cannot even come close to applying pressure to an employer. When was the last time you heard about someone getting a job and having the company move to them, for example?

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  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Wednesday April 26 2017, @02:17AM (2 children)

    by jmorris (4844) on Wednesday April 26 2017, @02:17AM (#499776)

    Do you even read the news? Or do you even read what you write before hitting post? Good grief.

    When was the last time you heard about someone getting a job and having the company move to them, for example?

    Happens every frickin' day. That is the root of the problem, really. Companies being forced to move the jobs to where the workers are. If you are a rich guy with a factory do you really think you WANT to go to the bother of packing the whole thing up and moving it elsewhere? Why do you think they do it? Because they can't afford workers with the required skills in the area where the factory currently is at. So they compare the all in price of moving workers in vs moving the factory and decide it easier and cheaper to move the factory to the labor. And there goes another few thousand jobs to Mexico, China, Indonesia or some other craphole.

    You complaint, and most everybody else here, seems to be you don't like the idea of competing with the whole world for your job. Yea it sucks but lets hear your alternative. The root of the problem is not the inequality within the U.S. or any of the 1st world countries, it is the vast gulf of inequality between the U.S. and the poorest 3rd world country with just enough political stability and infrastructure to allow it to compete for your job.

    No Trump probably can't fix this problem without making several worse ones.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @02:25AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @02:25AM (#499782)

      it is the vast gulf of inequality between the U.S. and the poorest 3rd world country with just enough political stability and infrastructure to allow it to compete for your job.

      Clearly, the solution is to let our infrastructure and political process rot, and then we'll be able to compete with them for jobs.

    • (Score: 2) by http on Thursday April 27 2017, @05:08AM

      by http (1920) on Thursday April 27 2017, @05:08AM (#500520)

      This is the perfect troll! Cogent, plausible to the naive, and 100% wrong. Kudos.

      Nopody in Mexico aspired to work for Ford/GM/whathaveyou, but when the plant moved there, hey, a crap job is better than no job.

      Companies being forced to move the jobs to where the workers are.

      You're kidding yourself. Companies choosing to move to where cheaper workers are available, in hopes of maintaining high ROI and gold plated executive payouts.

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  • (Score: 2) by The Mighty Buzzard on Wednesday April 26 2017, @02:48AM (2 children)

    by The Mighty Buzzard (18) Subscriber Badge <themightybuzzard@proton.me> on Wednesday April 26 2017, @02:48AM (#499801) Homepage Journal

    No, unions are the answer to your point. They need not even be localized. They could simply be all class-3 widget makers declaring that class-3 widgets will not be made for under $23/hr across the nation.

    Mind you, they're each and every one cannibalistic by nature and will end up destroying the jobs of those they propose to represent; but for a very short time they're actually useful.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @02:19PM (1 child)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @02:19PM (#500038)

      This site is a hotbed for corporate fascists such as yourself. You shouldn't be allowed to claim being a US citizen. But neither should 33% of the population who hate individual freedom and love freedom of profits.

      You're all SOOO DUMB. Tmb, jmorris, khallow and sometimes runaway. Promoting the horrors of yesterday.

      The WORST part? None of you are actually blithering idiots which makes it that much worse to see it wasted on trolling and shitty ideology.

      • (Score: 2) by http on Thursday April 27 2017, @05:11AM

        by http (1920) on Thursday April 27 2017, @05:11AM (#500522)

        EASE UP, there, a.c. They're welcome to their citizenship. I would fucking hate it if they moved away from the US and came here.

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