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posted by on Wednesday April 26 2017, @10:34AM   Printer-friendly
from the religion-of-piece dept.

Milo Yiannopoulos brings us this disturbing tidbit:

A gay man from Chechnya, Russia has spoken out, providing some troubling details related to the the majority-Muslim province's effort to eliminate the LGBTQ community entirely.

According to Metro.co.uk's Charles White, many gay men living in Chechnya fear the government will "eliminate" them by the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

The government is reportedly hoarding[sic] the gay men into "concentration camps" where some may have been killed.

According to Breitbart, the Agence France-Presse (AFP) spoke with several gay victims of oppression who have managed to escape Chechnya. What they've revealed is that not only are gay men in the region afraid of persecution from authority.

They're also scared of "honor killings" by family members looking to punish them for shaming their family name. This fear follows the individuals even after they've left Chechnya, where the bulk of the atrocities appears to be occurring.

"If any of my relatives realize I'm gay, they won't hesitate a minute before killing me," said one 28-year-old victim according to the outlet. "And if they don't do it, they will get killed themselves for failing to uphold the family honor."

[Ed. note: See also this fascinating background article on the apparent cause of this recent pogrom in Chechnya. Hat tip to n1 for providing this link.]

I know it's not our usual fare but some things just need brought out in the open; see what Iran is up to.


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @12:57PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @12:57PM (#499982)

    the majority-Muslim province's effort to eliminate the LGBTQ community entirely.

    That's just peace-loving muslims showing the tolerance they are famous for.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @01:27PM (5 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @01:27PM (#499999)

    The problem is that they're mad at US Republicans. Yerp. Once we get rid of those, only then will people on the opposite side of the world stop murdering and oppressing others. That's why us liberals love Muslims.

    • (Score: 0, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @03:32PM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @03:32PM (#500095)

      Having been personally harmed by Christian violence and child abuse, it took me a while to see that Muslims were no better.

      I would encourage liberals to realize that, assuming they're simply not partisans, Muslims are using the same source material as Christians, so every reason one might have for hating Christians applies equally to Muslims. If one was personally harmed by Christians as I was, consider that Muslims are equally at fault because they follow the exact (the EXACT!) same religio-political system Christians do from the exact same books and scrolls. The only disagreement between Christians and Muslims seems to be what time of day is best for praying and certain items of fashion and clothing.

      When one sees a woman wearing a hijab at the supermarket, one should have the same reaction one has to a Christian bumper sticker in traffic. She is not a victim of anything. She willingly put on that hijab. She willingly insisted on mutilating her daughter's genitals, even to the point of traveling half way around the world to get it done! If you grant her citizenship, she'll join her Christian sisters side-by-side voting in Sharia law. If you're a liberated woman, she, both the Muslim woman in a hijab and the Christian woman driving an SUV with an anti-choice bumper sticker, very much want to control your body. Neither of them is being coerced. That is so important to understand. They want to enact violence against you and violently impose upon your very body, and they choose this from their own free will!

      Neither Muslims nor Christians are deluded. They know exactly what they're doing, and they're dangerous. All of them.

      • (Score: 2) by dyingtolive on Wednesday April 26 2017, @05:26PM

        by dyingtolive (952) on Wednesday April 26 2017, @05:26PM (#500182)

        Seems reasonable to me. Religion is terrifyingly harmful with few, if any, positives.

        --
        Don't blame me, I voted for moose wang!
      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @05:54PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @05:54PM (#500215)

        > She willingly insisted on mutilating her daughter's genitals, even to the point of traveling half way around the world to get it done!

        Fuck you and your bullshit. FGM is not a religious practice. Its cultural and it applies across all religions in the same geography - primarily central africa.
        There are 300+ million muslims in india and pakistan who don't practice FGM and ~250 million muslims in Indonesia who don't either.

        Meanwhile Eritrea has almost 90% FGM. It's a Christian country. Ethiopia has 75% FGM. It's a Christian country.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @07:04PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @07:04PM (#500274)

          Well, that's true. I'm sorry I conflated those things. Male genital mutilation is a something that Christianity, Islam, and Judaism all demand. Female genital mutilation seems to be peculiar to different cultures, but as you've illustrated, none of those religions have any compunction against it, all coming from the same book of laws that prescribes the same political system.

          Like all forms of child abuse, the abused becomes the abuser. With male genital mutilation, we see the abused father demand that his son be likewise abused. The gender is easily swapped. With female genital mutilation, we see the abused mother demand that her daughter be likewise abused.

          Genital mutilation is interesting if I may detach my emotions about the topic and attempt to be academic. It's a way of marking members of the tribe. Why not a tattoo or a brand or something less deleterious? I believe there are two reasons, the obvious first being that the deprivation of sexual pleasure seems to result in an inclination towards violence.

          The other thing is that unlike a tattoo or brand, it's something that's no so easily faked by an outsider. Somebody would have to be literally (yes, literally) mentally ill to willingly mutilate their own sexual organs (and criminally depraved in my view to do it to an infant). Individuals who practice those three religions, separate as they pretend to be, demonstrate that they are fundamentally insane by permitting, in the case of female genital mutilation, and demanding, in the case of male genital mutilation, these practices.

          Granted, there are people who say they are members of those religions who do not practice such horrific things. I question why they should even bother counting themselves among people who are under orders from their god to murder gays, mutilate or permit the mutilation of genitals, kill infidels, and, among other things, avoid bacon. If one has no intention of killing gays, mutilating male genitals, and allowing people who practice FGM to continue to abuse infants (and if one likes bacon), then why should one identify as a Christian, Muslim, or Jew?

          Personally, I think Jesus was an influential person who had some very good things to say. I do not need to call myself a Christian or Muslim to recognize that there is something of value to be found what's related of his philosophy in the Gospel. I also think that Jesus would look very dimly on killing anybody or mutilating anybody's genitals for any reason at all.

          (Also note, we must not confuse infant genital mutilation for other practices such as genital mutilation as a right of passage especially into manhood. It's still cruel, but at least they have the unimaginable option of, say, running away. [And then what? Dying alone? Hence the cruelty.])

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @07:07PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 26 2017, @07:07PM (#500277)

            Female genital mutilation seems to be peculiar to different cultures, but as you've illustrated, none of those religions have any compunction against it, all coming from the same book of laws that prescribes the same political system.

            This came out completely jumbled. Guess I need to make better use of the preview button. You illustrated that FGM is independent of religion and that religious people may opt out of MGM, nothing more.