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Common Dreams reports:
In yet another reminder of how corporate-friendly the Trump administration has been—despite campaign pledges to defend American workers and "buy American, hire American" rhetoric—a new study out [April 25] reveals that the president continues to reward U.S. companies who ship jobs overseas.
According to the analysis (pdf), conducted by Good Jobs Nation along with Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch, "the flow of federal contract awards to major offshorers has continued unabated since Trump's inauguration."
The outsourcing of American jobs to other countries is a major issue for American voters, and helped propel President Donald Trump's victory in a number of economically distressed rust-belt states.
Despite this, as many as "56 percent of the top U.S. firms awarded the largest taxpayer-funded contracts in fiscal year (FY) 2016 engage in offshoring", the report notes. Further, 41 of the top 100 federal contractors--which in 2016 received a combined $176 billion in taxpayer dollars--have shipped jobs overseas and "many continue to do so today".
[...] "Even though he's signed over 60 executive orders during his first 100 days, he has yet to use the power of the pen to stop corporations that receive taxpayer dollars from shipping American jobs overseas", said Joseph Geevarghese, director of Good Jobs Nation.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Lagg on Wednesday April 26 2017, @07:49PM (25 children)
and then once it's all over we'll learn to stop calling concepts that we don't like rape, racism and sexism so societal reactions like that stop happening so much.
Heheheheheh nah we won't learn shit
(I do agree with the spirit of your post for what it's worth, I just find it hard to not poke fun at both sides and in general be a shithead because they are each other and deserve each other)
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(Score: 5, Informative) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday April 26 2017, @08:01PM (17 children)
No they aren't, and the one who says the loonie left and the loonie right are equally wrong is wronger than both of them. The loonie left is smaller, weaker, less invested in causing widespread misery, and far more educable than the loonie right, who are basically the Christian version of the Taliban, but too fat and too low-testosterone to grow facial hair.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday April 26 2017, @09:49PM (8 children)
If you grew up in the United States you can be forgiven for having little contact with actual loonie leftists. I went to graduate school and delved in a lot of anthropology in my course of study, and there are a handful of actual, un-reconstructed Marxists still in that field; afterward I was active in the Green Party. Loonie leftists like to read and study a whole lot, sure, but they're not at all educable and they are certainly not interested in input from you or anybody else. They know the truth, and all the reading and study and thinking is their attempt to reconcile the inherent contradictions in material dialecticism and to prove that they're right, and the entire rest of the world which has moved on from marxism/socialism/communism is wrong, wrong, wrong. Occasionally one of them sneaks onto some organization like a PTA or community board, and the first thing they move to do is amend bylaws or rules of procedure so that inputs are eliminated and discussion is cut off. They're very sneaky about it because they are well aware that if they are upfront about their Marxist motivations that everyone else will block them reflexively.
Honestly, there isn't much difference in how it feels to interact with them versus interacting with the loonie right, as measured by spittle-flecked invective. They don't give a fuck what anybody else thinks and even compete with each other to reach new heights (lows?) of craziness.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Wednesday April 26 2017, @10:07PM (3 children)
That thing with input elimination and discussion cut off seems all too familiar. ;(
Any idea how to enable a life without the need to handle loonies in any great amount?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Phoenix666 on Thursday April 27 2017, @12:27AM (2 children)
There is no way to eliminate loonies because there is no one definition of what constitutes such. Loonies are certain they are the sane ones. The rest of us are fools, dupes, or evil. I've been screamed at by people who were mad that all of us buy the wrong kind of peanut butter, that only peanut butter made from nuts grown in a certain valley in Peru are acceptable. I've been called a Stalinist because I didn't think everyone should drop everything to fight for handicapped accessible cabs in NYC. Tonight at a PTA meeting a parent called me a "sugar fascist" because I didn't think we should ban treats when kids celebrate their birthdays with their class. And those are the non-right wing, non-Marxist loonies in the progressive paradise of Park Slope, Brooklyn. I've heard equal madness on the other end of the spectrum from my relatives out West where I grew up.
The only thing I'm reasonably sure of with respect to loonies and crazy talk is to answer them and their invective with firm, sharp reason. Answering them with platitudes, non-committal half-agreement, or canned talking points only makes things worse. In short, call people on their bullshit every time, and occasionally they can rise to the challenge and do or say something useful.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 27 2017, @12:43AM (1 child)
Which valley is that?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 27 2017, @10:41PM
The uncanny one.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Wednesday April 26 2017, @11:26PM (3 children)
I'd still rather deal with an unreconstructed Marxist than, say, a Dominionist. They're wrong, and I know why they're wrong, but they're less wrong and less self-contradictory than, for example, Rushdoony was. Which is to say, both are equally nutty in economic terms but the Marxist is usually going to be a decent person aside from that.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday April 27 2017, @12:30AM (2 children)
Sure. I grant you that at least they try hard. Know-nothings and their heirs don't try at all. It's a pity they don't, because theirs could be a useful input into the public discourse if they tried to back it up with thought.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday April 27 2017, @03:46AM (1 child)
No it couldn't, because, as you just said, they are know-nothings. I am speaking here of the kind of habitual urinator-in-the-meme-pool that thinks aid to Israel should be the US's number one priority specifically because Armageddon will, in his lifetime, begin there. Not only do they know nothing, they can't know anything, because they won't know anything.
That kind of mind has been so completely poisoned over so many years that only the kind of existential shock that can only be truly put into words in literary Russian is going to change them.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday April 27 2017, @11:51AM
That's an excellent characterization. I'm going to steal this.
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Lagg on Thursday April 27 2017, @03:03AM (7 children)
Your post, the thread following your post and the score of your post all confirm to me that the binaries are functionally identical in their insanity :)
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(Score: 2) by Lagg on Thursday April 27 2017, @03:09AM (6 children)
Welp that came out looking like I took issue with your post being modded insightful. Sorry, meant because of:
Flamebait=1, Insightful=1, Interesting=1, Informative=1, Touché=1
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday April 27 2017, @03:49AM (5 children)
And as I've said before, no, the two sides are *not* identical, functionally or otherwise. They are equally wrong about economic theory, and both ironically for the precise same reason: they do not take human nature into account. The unreconstructed Marxist is likely to be more or less a decent person in other facets of his or her life, though, while the Theonomist is going to be more or less the Baptist version of Achmed the Dead Terrorist but suffering from type II diabetes and the effects of three generations of incest.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by cubancigar11 on Thursday April 27 2017, @05:21AM (4 children)
Can we just assume now that you are on the left? Conflict of interest... tinted glass... ingroups and outgroups...
You are obviously wrong, btw. There is no metric of who is 'decent' and who is 'deplorable', there is no research which quantifies that into a single number, and there is no way any method to device such a metric is not going to be biased.
Carry on...
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Thursday April 27 2017, @09:15PM (2 children)
Fuck you and die. There is one very obvious metric and that is "is this person trying to literally bring about Armageddon with his or her policies?" Leftists, as nuts as some of them may be, aren't.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 27 2017, @10:45PM (1 child)
The false equivalence is staggering. Both groups suffer from emotionally based ideologies and have similar reactions when criticized, but as you pointed out they are very different. Loony rights usually base their ideology from fear and anger, loony lefts are usually base their ideologies on compassion and hope. Anger creeps in from all the loony rights trying to destroy the people they don't like.
(Score: 2) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday April 28 2017, @01:16AM
Well...as it is said, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, but surely the direct borehole to it is drilled with those of evil. Would heaven i could give everyone the insight to stop and ask themselves, "am I putting ideology above people?" Kantian thinking can be a dangerous thing...
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 27 2017, @09:25PM
I didn't believe it was possible to be both smug and butthurt at the same time.
But you just proved me wrong.
(Score: 2) by mcgrew on Thursday April 27 2017, @04:59PM (6 children)
and then once it's all over we'll learn to stop calling concepts that we don't like rape, racism and sexism so societal reactions like that stop happening so much.
Grabbing someone's pussy because you can because you're rich IS rape. If you are fined for racial discrimination not once but twice, you ARE a racist. If you saw shit like "blood comeing out of her... whatever", you ARE sexist. Those are inarguable FACTS.
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(Score: 2) by Lagg on Thursday April 27 2017, @06:32PM (5 children)
and you're the second person that proved my point about you guys being the exact same as each other. Happily weaponizing quotes out of context to further your agenda. Lying. Being counter-intuitive on purpose. You are precisely the same as Trump in your hypocrisy and shamelessness.
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(Score: 2) by edIII on Thursday April 27 2017, @08:18PM (4 children)
How can you possibly take "grab them by the pussy", and everything else he said in that conversation, out of context? Weaponizing it? No, sir. It was not weaponized to be pointing that out. Trump "hoisted himself up by his own petard" and no other weapon was required.
Just what fucking context is there that makes that okay? He was literally talking about walking up and performing the act of sexual assault.
I don't buy it as locker room talk. It's disgusting beyond measure to have trivialized the acts of sexual assault in the ways that he did. He perfectly described a despicable act of sexual assault upon a woman, of which, many women have claimed he literally performed upon them.
Not sure how you weaponize the truth against a man and take it of context, when it came out of his own mouth and was not vague in its description.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 2) by Lagg on Thursday April 27 2017, @10:51PM (3 children)
Are you guys really this partisan to not see the issue here? At no point did I refer to Trump in any capacity. You're continuously re-proving the point and have your head too far into your own parties to understand that what I'm criticizing is the system of politics that allowed Trump to be elevated to his current position. Are you really not seeing how it was your partisan bullshit that enabled him to fuel this hysteria against liberals and democrats in the first place. They. Are. All. The. Fucking. Same. How is this not obvious.
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(Score: 2) by edIII on Thursday April 27 2017, @11:16PM (2 children)
I think you need to step back a bit. Nothing to do with partisan anything. Perhaps you should try to explain yourself, and the overall point a bit better.
In the context of the thread we were speaking about Trump:
How did I weaponize a quote out of context? Perhaps it furthered my agenda, but it was not out of context and any weaponization is explicitly and entirely Trump's own fault. He has hoisted himself by his own petard as a career. It's just interesting that he continually escapes the consequences. Ask Billy Bush about that.
Lying? Ummm, he said it on video. No lying required. We didn't create "fake news" (nudge nudge) by continually bringing up the verifiable truth.
Another way to put your next statement is deliberate and willful ignorance to achieve a goal. Nobody is saying anything other than he is a misogynistic sexual predator and a piece of shit. Which is not only self-evident, but backed up by actual evidence. There is no misinformation being imparted, and no deliberate obfuscation of information, and no unbiased analyses or predictions. Just the facts.
The last one is fighting words :) I am not same as Trump. I'm not hypocritical because I've never even considered walking up to an attractive girl and grabbing her by the pussy. Just a bit slightly arrogant that she would be receptive, and certainly not the behavior of a gentlemen interested in romance. Although, I am shameless about bringing it up :) You got me nailed there, buddy.
While you may have some point hiding around in there, you are way off base in those statements as it relates to the sexual predation of Mr. Trump. That is most certainly a bipartisan activity, and the fact that it isn't, is exceptionally shameful of the Trump supporters. It's more important that they get there way than it is to fight sexual predation and decidedly ungentlemanly conduct.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.
(Score: 2) by Lagg on Friday April 28 2017, @12:05AM (1 child)
You may actually have a point about failure to explain myself.
You mean he is fucking over all his rabid bigoted White Nationalist supporters once he got into office? But...but...but... he wasn't supposed to turn out like crooked Hillary! :D
If were lucky, it will turn out to be a light raping of this country.
Stuff like this is from the outset is counter-intuitive, oversimplifying and quite untrue about quite a few of Trump's voters. And exactly the same shit that conservative speakers, trump's twitter tantrums and supporters do while telling the other team they're doing it. Always an assumption of alignment and always horrible dehumanizing simplification of a population. Understand that much of his support comes from TV. TV where this kind of blabber is repeated in cycles day in and out. Fighting sound bytes. All parties are keeping people ignorant as a result of it.
And that's also where blabber like you posted is at its absolute worst. But you're not recognizing your own blabber because if I take issue with it then clearly I'm one of those groups or think that his bragging about sexual assault is anything but gross. I'm not. I just think it's a hilarious tragedy that 45 years later we've got computers and internet and still doing the whole "Don't call me a crypto-nazi you queer" thing. It shows how far removed from reality people are that they think the "Crooked Hillary" crap is even a thing outside twitter. I am being 100% sincere when I say it's only my uncle that thinks Michelle Obama is a man that I have ever heard use that term in real life.
To be absolutely clear on my position towards Trump: Most of my soylent news journal usage have been recording random thoughts and questions for the community about just how much of a joke and budding dictator he is. You can safely assume I'm not a white nationalist or anything. I also know that he has emboldened bigots. But given that I am rural I have tried to understand the reasoning of his voters on a local level from friends, acquaintances and family.
To whittle it all down to white nationalism is just the same old shit that caused such a reaction in the first place and in my eyes registers pretty much the same way "libtard" does. People on all sides of this - the ones that think a side is a necessary - fail to understand that because of their media and social bubble.
I've been forcefully exposed to super liberal/progressive states and super-conservative ones alike. They themselves are different from super-conservative bible belt states. Something which appears to have flown right over the heads of people.
If my equally bad tl;dr to your bad tl;dr was insufficient. Lemme try a hypothetical. We have an understanding of where your above quotes came from and what you were trying to express with them. But how easy would it be to screenshot and crop that and post it on twitter as an example of "the regressive left" or whatever their counter-blabber is to being called white nationalists? Now remove the respectful understanding that fox, cnn and co. are incapable of possessing and spin it in a negative tone above a silly looking picture of yourself and hey look at that edIII said the whole murika ever is RACIST AND JUST SAID ALL WHITES ARE GOING TO RAPE THE COUNTRY.
I will agree that my points are well hidden. It's not intentional. But I fail terribly at explaining my position and dig myself in deeper trying to expand my posts with explanations. Which make them more muddled. Like right now. So I'll stop.
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(Score: 2) by edIII on Friday April 28 2017, @12:40AM
Ahhh, you're just wrong about my statements then.
1) The "light raping" is not counter-intuitive, oversimplifying, or untrue. I mean that in a literal sense, just like how Genghis Khan literally raped the world for awhile. Perhaps the word pillage would be best, but that doesn't quite capture what is happening with the yet again massive wealth transfer to the top 1%. It IS a form of rape against our country when no representative democracy exists, and those in power abuse it to amass and hoard wealth. The people are just as victimized. The term rape is actually the correct term when referring to land resources and our activity with nature. Maybe that's wrong, but it's grammatically correct with its usage having precedent. Like how Abraham Lincoln participated in the mass raping of our lands and resources with the robber barons of old.... which he used to work for... as a lawyer...
Trump is just repeating a known working formula.
2) White Nationalism is the absolutely most perfect phrase to describe the primary motivating factor of Trump's rise to power. I'm not apologetic about that, and I'm deeply fucking pissed that I woke up one day to find out that most of my fellow white guys are fucking bigots and racists that were just being silent for years. At least seemingly so, otherwise how did Trump get elected on a platform of pure nationalistic hate*? It IS White Nationalism that played a very significant part, and many of the values they espouse are fucking abhorrent. Instead of calling it White Nationalism, some people are being more intellectual and calling it racial security/insecurity. Yes, I tease these racially insecure people and enjoy their pain. Perhaps me not taking the high road, but fuck it, there are no high roads left in America. They are the "basket of deplorables", and they can kiss my fucking ass.
Yes, there is chunk of Trump supporters that are not like that. I realize that, and to them I do apologize. However, much like moderate and loving Islam, they're fucking silent right now. The moderate Trump supporters that I know? They are all fucking pissed off too and greatly disappointed in their choice. So Trump supporters as a group are contracting, not expanding.
3*) Crooked Hillary is most certainly a thing outside of Twitter. I was calling that absolute cunt crooked before Twitter took off. She IS crooked. She's the reason why we have Trump. She's the reason why I couldn't vote for Sanders, or at least she made sure it wasn't a fair fucking fight. I'm somewhat down for locking the bitch up. Just prove her corruption with her foundation and the pay-to-play bullshit that happened with her and the Saudi's IIRC. Not crooked outside of Twitter? Surely you misspoke....
I'm not recognizing my own blabber because we both got confused over context, who was replying about what, etc. :) Honestly, I was very puzzled by that response and thought it was purely in reaction to the "pussy grabbing" comments.
Your post makes a lot more sense when connected with my original comments, and no, I don't misconstrue you taking me to task for that with your support of sexual predation.
I apologize if you thought I did.
Technically, lunchtime is at any moment. It's just a wave function.