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posted by mrpg on Thursday April 27 2017, @09:29AM   Printer-friendly
from the illegal-to-doubt dept.

Running red lights can get you a ticket. But in Oregon, you can be fined just for talking about it.

Mats Järlström learned this first-hand last year when the state of Oregon fined him $500 for publicly suggesting that yellow lights should last for slightly longer to accommodate cars making right turns.

[...] He did a little Googling and found the formula used to set traffic-light times. The length of time a traffic light stays yellow is based on a relatively straightforward mathematical formula, originally drafted in 1959. Mats realized that the formula is incomplete, because it fails to capture the behavior of drivers making right turns.

[...] Mats's work was generally met with interest and praise, but when Mats e-mailed the Oregon State Board of Examiners for Engineering and Land Surveying, things took an abrupt illegal U-turn. The Board told Mats they had no interest in hearing about his ideas. Fair enough. But the Board didn't stop there. They launched a full-blown investigation, alleging that he'd engaged in the unlicensed "practice of engineering."

After a two-year-long investigation, the Board fined him $500. According to the Board, "critiquing" the length of yellow lights and talking about his ideas with "members of the public" made Mats a lawbreaker because he's not an Oregon-licensed professional engineer.

The Board also told Mats that he couldn't refer to himself using the word "engineer" either. Most people would probably agree that "engineer" is a sensible way to describe Mats, given his education, experience, and skills. (He has a degree in electrical engineering from Sweden, and he's worked in a range of technical fields for decades). But in Oregon, none of that matters; the word "engineer" is off-limits to everyone who is not a state-licensed professional engineer.

Source: Institute for Justice


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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 27 2017, @12:05PM (2 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 27 2017, @12:05PM (#500615)

    Ah, but do they have people with ass-handing degrees who could do that for them?

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DECbot on Thursday April 27 2017, @01:13PM (1 child)

    by DECbot (832) on Thursday April 27 2017, @01:13PM (#500661) Journal

    We recognize that there are people with degrees in ass-handing, but without board certification from the State of Oregon in ass-handing, they are not allowed to practice in ass-handing--paid or otherwise.

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    • (Score: 2) by bob_super on Thursday April 27 2017, @07:03PM

      by bob_super (1357) on Thursday April 27 2017, @07:03PM (#500844)

      Not (ass-handing) is handing-not-ass which resolves to handing-opposite-side-from-ass.
      The president approves.