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posted by Fnord666 on Saturday April 29 2017, @05:28AM   Printer-friendly
from the where-to-draw-the-line dept.

Officials in Xinjiang will deny benefits to children with certain Islamic or Islam-related names:

Many couples fret over choosing the perfect name for their newborn, but for Muslims in western China that decision has now become even more fraught: pick the wrong name and your child will be denied education and government benefits.

Officials in the western region of Xinjiang, home to roughly half of China's 23 million Muslims, have released a list of banned baby names amid an ongoing crackdown on religion, according to a report by US-funded Radio Free Asia.

Names such as Islam, Quran, Saddam and Mecca, as well as references to the star and crescent moon symbol, are all unacceptable to the ruling Communist party and children with those names will be denied household registration, a crucial document that grants access to social services, healthcare and education.

Muhammad, Jihad, Medina, Mujahid, Arafat, Imam, Hajj, and Yultuzay are also banned.

Also at NYT. Reuters story about other restrictions that went into effect on April 1st.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by wonkey_monkey on Saturday April 29 2017, @12:54PM (14 children)

    by wonkey_monkey (279) on Saturday April 29 2017, @12:54PM (#501532) Homepage

    Naming your kid "Muhammed" is child abuse. It forever prevents being part of western society.

    Some people are perfectly having no part of Western society. It's not the pinnacle of existence just because it happens to be where you live.

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 29 2017, @01:28PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 29 2017, @01:28PM (#501540) Journal

    Actually, I am at the pinnacle of existence. But, that's cool, not everyone can be at the pinnacle. It makes life better if not everyone is trying to become the king of my mountain. Enjoy life down there on the plateau!!

  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Sulla on Saturday April 29 2017, @03:01PM (12 children)

    by Sulla (5173) on Saturday April 29 2017, @03:01PM (#501553) Journal

    Try explaining that to the police in Singapore when you litter.
    Try explaining that to the local police when you insult the King in Thailand
    Try explaining that to the mob in Saudia Arabia when you are a woman and didnt wear a burqa

    When in Rome you do as the Romans do. This comes back to the larger argument against immigration. People like to bitch about sending the Mexicans back, but they don't want George down the street to be sent away. People only care about sending "those other illegals I sont know" away. In general Mexicans (in general anyone from the americas) integrate well and the melting pot works because we both take something from the other, our cultures are similar enough that it works out.

    There is this changed perspective that the melting pot is bad and everyone needs to stay separate and vibrant -- except for the dominate western culture that is expected to change itself to be more in line with what the newer immigrants find acceptable. Immigrants from Asia, the Americas, Ireland, etc kept their traditional near and dear, but they didnt/dont honor kill relatives and demand we accept it because thats just their culture. Immigration, like marraige, means you need to cleave yourself free from your parents and start something new.

    No other people that have moved to the US have had as different a culture from us as the current immigrants from the ME.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @06:40PM (10 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @06:40PM (#501618)

      There is this changed perspective that the melting pot is bad and everyone needs to stay separate and vibrant

      Nope. That was always the perspective of the dominant culture.
      That you think otherwise just shows that you, like all bigots, are historically illiterate.
      The exact same complaints you make today have been made about every group of immigrants since before the revolution.
      We've always had chinatowns, little italies, etc. And we've always had people like you bitching about them about not integrating. And they have always integrated at the exact same rate as all previous waves of immigrants.

      For fucks sake, Mohammed himself is carved into the building of the supreme court. [soundvision.com]

      • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @08:07PM (6 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @08:07PM (#501652)

        For fucks sake, Mohammed himself is carved into the building of the supreme court.

        So? The song of the Marine Corps speaks about "from the shores of Tripoli", referring to the victorious battles, brought about by self-defense, over the Islamic Barbary Pirates' bases in said country.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @09:03PM (5 children)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @09:03PM (#501669)

          And the US military has turned the honorific "haji" into a synonym for "sand nigger."
          What they sing about is a lot less representative of the country than the supreme court.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @09:55PM (4 children)

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @09:55PM (#501683)

            What [the Marine Corps] sing about is a lot less representative of the country than the supreme court.

            Is this the same Supreme Court that claimed that black-skinned people aren't human? [wikipedia.org]

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @11:34PM (3 children)

              by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @11:34PM (#501720)

              Its the same supreme court that overturned the dred scott ruling.
              Your tea is so weak, its tasteless.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30 2017, @05:04AM (2 children)

                by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30 2017, @05:04AM (#501794)

                the same supreme court that overturned the dred scott ruling.

                [citation needed]

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30 2017, @11:41AM (1 child)

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30 2017, @11:41AM (#501825)

                  Don't be dense.
                  There have been many rulings affirming the 1866 civil rights act that was passed in order to nullify the dred scott decision.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30 2017, @02:13PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30 2017, @02:13PM (#501857)

                    How many more years do you expect it'll take for Mohummad's image to be "overturned" from public buildings as a figurehead of an ideology that calls for a global war of conquest?

      • (Score: 2) by Sulla on Saturday April 29 2017, @10:40PM (2 children)

        by Sulla (5173) on Saturday April 29 2017, @10:40PM (#501701) Journal

        I don't recall those living in our various Chinatowns or Little Italies participating in honor killings.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @11:31PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @11:31PM (#501716)

          I don't recall those living in our various Chinatowns or Little Italies participating in honor killings.

          Again, your historical illiteracy is proof of nothing beyond your ignorance.

          Families have been killing their own kids for being gay for centuries.
          Men have been killing women for cheating on them since forever too.
          Especially when the woman hooks up with a black man. [woldcnews.com]

          Honor killing is still on the books as a legal defense in some states.
          It was successfully used in a Georiga state court just a couple of years ago. [ajc.com]

          So don't give me this shit about honor killing being unique to muslims. If anything, muslims in american have much lower rates of violent crime than native born whites. Out of a couple of million american muslims how many have committed and honor killing? Like maybe 3? If you think 3 out of 3 million is a meaningful number you aren't just illiterate, you are a fucking innumerate.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30 2017, @03:40PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 30 2017, @03:40PM (#501876)

            fuck muslims and their goat fucking, child molesting profit.

    • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by Runaway1956 on Saturday April 29 2017, @10:54PM

      by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 29 2017, @10:54PM (#501705) Journal

      This changed perspective . . .

      No, the melting pot isn't bad. But, immigration implies a relation, or relationship. Kinda like getting married, where a new relationship is created and built. If he can't stand her family, the relationship is going to see rocky time. Vice versa, of course. A marriage requires a lot of things, starting with similar values, and complementary expectations. I know that in some parts of the world, neither the bride nor the groom has any voice in getting married, but here in America, they both have an equal voice.

      With the illegal aliens, one of us has no voice. I/we have our house, and we are comfortable in our house. Some stranger who we don't even know decides to move in, and we have no say in it. That's the whole point of the "illegal" in "illegal aliens". I/we don't want to marry every Carlos, Juan, and Jiminez to wander into the open front door. At the VERY least, knock on the door, and ask permission to come into the house.

      Courtesy, respect, morals - if you have none of those, well, hell no we don't need or want a relationship with you!

      Pretty much every man and woman in America would defend themselves from the burglar breaking in the front door, but many can't understand that the burglar IS a burglar.

      Remember that they aren't "immigrants" - they are ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS. Those who take the time and effort to jump through all the hoops required by law are STILL WELCOME HERE!!

      Remember that Illegal is not a race. It isn't racist to expect people to knock at the door, and ask permission to come into the house. It isn't racist to defend your home from the illegal alien invaders.

      As for those you mention from the mid-East - to true. Specifically, Muslims demanding that we adust to their culture. Hell no, we won't adjust. Western/Euro history has a tradition of fighting back, and resisting an aristocracy which assumed all the "rights" and "privileges" which Islam demands for itself. Honor killings for infidelity and/or adultery? You bet! Maybe not so much for insulting God, but when arranged marriages were the thing, there were probably enough "honor killings" to keep the women in line.

      And, that's what makes the liberal/progressive alliance with Islam so very crazy. Islam wants to turn our clocks back by several hundreds of years, if not a thousand year or more!