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posted by on Saturday April 29 2017, @06:11AM   Printer-friendly
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Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard

Libreboot has now officially applied to rejoin GNU, which it left in September. According to Leah Rowe, the "initial responses from GNU's leadership seems positive."

Last week we reported that after reorganization, Libreboot was considering rejoining GNU and was seeking input from its community to determine the amount of support it had for such a move. From reading the comments posted both on our article on FOSS Force and on Libreboot's website, it comes as no surprise that the project's core members feel they have the necessary consesus to proceed.

Last night, FOSS Force received an email — sent jointly to us and Phoronix — letting us know of the decision.

Source: http://fossforce.com/2017/04/libreboot-applies-rejoin-gnu/


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  • (Score: 2) by andersjm on Saturday April 29 2017, @10:07AM (9 children)

    by andersjm (3931) on Saturday April 29 2017, @10:07AM (#501499)

    GNU is a trademark of sorts, the label that the FSF uses for projects they govern. There is no "GNU" organisation to join.

    What is happening is that Libreboot is handing governance of their project over to the FSF. Maybe that's a good thing, I couldn't say, but the manipulative language irks me a little.

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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Lagg on Saturday April 29 2017, @10:47AM (8 children)

    by Lagg (105) on Saturday April 29 2017, @10:47AM (#501508) Homepage Journal

    GNU is a project umbrella like Apache. It's a userspace. FSF is an organization. They want FSF to re-add the project to the umbrella. Though regardless of their motivations I personally think it was a drop dead stupid idea to let the person that decided to have a freakout for what appears to be no reason be the one to post the notice. When you allow people with little shits given to technical eloquence to act in that role, stuff like this happens:

    The project is now run collectively with democratic decision making; in most cases amongst maintainers, in others (such as this) where appropriate, with community input.
    All decisions in Libreboot now are taken democratically, and several people have root on the website and the git repositories

    There are several things wrong there. Starting with the forced politicization that Leah doesn't seem to want to learn from last time it happened. Ending with the massive security hole they're passing as a feature.

    It's also overall quite telling that their big open letter has its own share of politicization and everything-but-my-fault [libreboot.org]. Granted. Leah herself was reasonable in that letter. It's the author of the first part that felt the need to drag such things into the light (which is uncool by the way, let people with medicated symptoms do this on their own). Which to me indicates that whatever they did to libreboot to make it even worse of an ideological cat fight than regular GNU they had better fix at its core instead of just saying it's okay because Leah isn't there anymore.

    Also, I cant' be bothered to care about free software these days (specifically free software, I still love open source). It was stupid to me when people would act socialist and then say projects aren't a democracy. It's stupid to me when people would act democratic and then bitchslap people for a dissenting opinion. It was especially stupid to me how both of these things can get in the way of phat code.

    Overall, not trying to participate in these projects is less of a pressure headache. Leah didn't do damage to the community. The community did rly. I'll just be over here making webterface PRs to those ISC'd and BSD'd and sometimes even unlicensed (GASP) projects that same community so strongly dislikes. Then watch my code get pushed upstream. And be a lil' happy camper. Meanwhile, GNU people can continue bickering over license headers bigger than 8 countries in square mileage and how politically appropriate a project is for a timeframe and maybe get that 3 line patch in eventually.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @11:21AM (4 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @11:21AM (#501513)

      Would you care to elaborate?

      • (Score: 2) by Lagg on Saturday April 29 2017, @11:50AM (3 children)

        by Lagg (105) on Saturday April 29 2017, @11:50AM (#501519) Homepage Journal

        I'm a state actor hired to sew discontent in the fabric of the community and out-stallman stallman in bein' a big ol' dick

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        • (Score: 2) by Lagg on Saturday April 29 2017, @11:53AM

          by Lagg (105) on Saturday April 29 2017, @11:53AM (#501520) Homepage Journal

          I apologize but do not regret because I accidentally typo'd that and couldn't find a good place to use it otherwise. My serious response is that you don't give multiple people root as a matter of procedure? You can have multiple users without doing stuff like that? ~/.ssh/authorized_keys and all that? Or am I missing something in the spirit of the post?

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        • (Score: 2) by fnj on Saturday April 29 2017, @02:17PM (1 child)

          by fnj (1654) on Saturday April 29 2017, @02:17PM (#501544)

          sew discontent

          ... and illiteracy.

          • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Saturday April 29 2017, @05:00PM

            by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Saturday April 29 2017, @05:00PM (#501582) Journal

            Oh, there are plenty of examples of sewing discontent. See, for example, the classic example of Joseph and his coat of many colors [wikipedia.org]. Jacob would definitely sew discontent in his family with that thing... heck, that darn coat was responsible for my own discontent watching that awful Charleton Heston film growing up, which would have never happened if Joseph hadn't been kidnapped to Egypt in the first place, all because his brothers sold him into slavery because someone had sewn discontent.

            Awful thing, that coat.

            Anyhow, sweatshops also tend to sew a lot of discontent. I could go on.... :)

    • (Score: 1) by purple_cobra on Saturday April 29 2017, @12:12PM

      by purple_cobra (1435) on Saturday April 29 2017, @12:12PM (#501523)

      I'd also suggest that the ability to just brain dump into a text editor then make that available to anyone with internet access and the patience to read it is not particularly helpful to those who might have problems with impulse control. If you know you're prone to that sort of thing, perhaps a self-imposed delay in posting - 12 hours later the browser asks "are you sure you want to post this?", for example - would be beneficial. I've also taken prescription medication in the past that left me in a less than normal state of mind; I'm just glad that internet access via ever-present smartphones wasn't available then!

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @09:00PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 29 2017, @09:00PM (#501668)

      Also, I cant' be bothered to care about free software these days

      And I can't be bothered with "open source" because many "open source" advocates don't make freedom their number one priority and it is therefore an unwise label for a free software advocate to take up.

      The problems you describe are hardly limited to free software projects, and "open source" has countless problems of its own.

    • (Score: 2) by MichaelDavidCrawford on Sunday April 30 2017, @01:57AM

      by MichaelDavidCrawford (2339) Subscriber Badge <mdcrawford@gmail.com> on Sunday April 30 2017, @01:57AM (#501749) Homepage Journal

      ok you're on.

      A while back I was completely convinced that I was a clandestine field agent for the United States Marine Corps Forces Cyber Command.

      Perphenazine took care of that little problem.

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