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The continuing developments over Russian hackers, including the unfolding details of the yahoo breech includes the U.S. indicting agents of the Russian computer crime unit.
Mike Eckel, of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, notes that 3 of the FBI's cyber most wanted include Sushchin, Dokuchaev, and Belan, all who are noted to have worked with the FSB, Russia's Federal Security Service, ostensibly to catch cybercriminals, while committing crimes themselves, and using their connections to evade detection.
Dokuchayev, with whom the Americans met with during their 2009 meetings in Moscow, was once well-known in cybercircles under the nickname Forb. He worked with other FSB officers, including one named Igor Sushchin, to recruit hackers to cooperate with the Russian agency on cyberactivities. Among the recruits was Aleksei Belan, who has been wanted by the FBI since 2012 for alleged hacking and computer fraud.
[...] In March, Dokuchayev's name surfaced again when the U.S. Justice Department announced his indictment, and that of FSB officer Sushchin, in connection with the massive data breach at the Internet company Yahoo. Mikhailov's name does not appear in the indictments, although cyberexperts believe someone identified only as "FSB Officer 3" is, in fact, Mikhailov. Sushchin, according to the indictment, worked as an undercover officer at the investment bank Renaissance Capital.
Part of the problem may be with how Russia uses and recruits cybercriminals from time to time:
"Moscow still depends, to a considerable extent, on recruiting cybercriminals, or simply calling on them from time to time, in return for their continued freedom," Mark Galeotti, a Prague-based expert on Russian intelligence agencies, wrote in a report published on April 18."
"This all -- this all is a mess," Vrublevsky told RFE/RL. "And it's a mess to be dealt with in both countries. The sooner the better."
https://www.rferl.org/a/cyber-crime-us-russia-cooperation-mess/28459178.html
(Score: 1, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 01 2017, @02:40PM (24 children)
And this differs from dealing with any other government, particularly the USA...how?
(Score: 4, Insightful) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Monday May 01 2017, @04:11PM (19 children)
Last I heard, the US wasn't butchering people in Ukraine.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 01 2017, @04:37PM (2 children)
True. The US government butchers its own people on its own soil.
(Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Monday May 01 2017, @05:13PM (1 child)
Right. Any examples of this you'd like to share with us Vlad?
(Score: 1) by Scrutinizer on Tuesday May 02 2017, @06:48AM
Eric Garner, John Crawford III, James Boyd, Sandra Bland, LaVoy Finicum, Tamir Rice, Freddie Gray, Walter Scott, Daniel Boyett, Wayne Campbell, Richard Jordan III, Richard Kirschner Jr., Jacob Rhyne, Jesus Rodriguez, Charles Russell, Manuel Rodriguez, Matthew Smith, and effectively all the deaths related to Prohibition II [narconews.com], including victims such as Jose Guerena.
These murder victims are just the barest few of those whose blood soaks the hands of US government agents, and this from only the most recent of years.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Monday May 01 2017, @05:32PM (14 children)
No, the US, and Russia, and China, and Brazil, and about everybody in Europe, etc etc etc just sell the knives. And when you look at the graph [nytimes.com] (Hillary's true legacy), you can see why the Russians are upset. The Ukrainian market is a big one to lose. Let's drop all the sill pretense. It's strictly business.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 4, Insightful) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Monday May 01 2017, @05:44PM (13 children)
This ignores the fact that Ukrainians want freedom from Russian oppression, and are getting killed by the Russians for it.
Ukraine deserves freedom from these butchers. That's more than just a "business".
(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Monday May 01 2017, @07:29PM (11 children)
If Ukrainians want freedom from Russian oppression, why are they fighting within their own borders? Why did a million people flee Donbass and enter Russia, while few have fled Crimea? Who are the so-called separtists and why are they being bombed rather than allowed to secede?
Sorry, but reality is more complicated than your fairy tale.
(Score: 3, Informative) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Monday May 01 2017, @07:56PM (10 children)
Right. So the Donbas "separatists" aren't really Russian soldiers in disguise? Even when they have been caught and admitted as much?
http://euromaidanpress.com/2017/04/21/russia-changes-its-donbas-occupation-policy-preparing-to-recognize-puppet-republics/#arvlbdata [euromaidanpress.com]
Russia want's to take Ukraine as it's own, and has set up a "separatist" enclave to enhance that goal. But it's nothing but a sham. Just like democracy in Russia and journalism in Russia are a sham.
Say a word against Putin, and your days are numbered. Not much different from Dutarte, Mugabe, or any other power-hungry dictator.
(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Monday May 01 2017, @08:43PM (9 children)
Euromaidan Press? I don't suppose they have an agenda...
Nobody can imagine a reason not to want to join NATO and the EU? Other than interference from the evil Russians?
If the separatists are just Russians in disguise like you claim, why doesn't Ukraine secure its border instead of bombing itself? This also doesn't explain why people fled Ukraine into Russia.
(Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Monday May 01 2017, @11:17PM (8 children)
If the separatists are just Russians in disguise like you claim, why doesn't Ukraine secure its border instead of bombing itself? This also doesn't explain why people fled Ukraine into Russia.
Ummm -
a) Ukraine isn't bombing itself. The Russians are bombing Ukraine. But you know that.
b) People aren't fleeing into Russia from Ukraine, except murderous crooks like Yanukovych. Is it Yanukovych you are thinking of? Must be. In fact, many Russian soldiers have defected to the Ukraine side. Mostly conscripts from oblasts other than Moscow. People trying to get away from the Russians even though they are in the Russian army. Funny how that works.
(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Tuesday May 02 2017, @12:32AM (7 children)
a) Don't pretend that Ukrainian government forces are not killing people in Ukraine.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140901234205/http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/09/01/ukraine-rising-civilian-toll-luhansk [archive.org]
Kiev has even bragged about doing so.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/04/world/europe/ukraine-crisis/ [cnn.com]
And again, if Russia is supposedly bombing Ukraine why aren't they protecting their border? The Minsk accord's demarcation line is 50 miles inside Ukraine.
b) Ukrainians have indeed been going to Russia. As reported in western-friendly The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/05/ukrainian-russia-refugee-conflict [theguardian.com]
Yanukovych may be a murderous crook, but he also was elected with strong support in certain regions of Ukraine. As it is obvious to everyone who actually cares, the country was already politically divided long before the coup. Your failure to admit this and instead blame Russia is just ignorant.
(Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Tuesday May 02 2017, @03:12AM (6 children)
Sure. The Russians in Ukraine (a million or more) who were in as occupiers ran back to Russia. Also Some Eastern Ukrainians who were pro Russian ran back to Russia. A lot of these "Ukrainians" were Russians who had been put into Ukraine or married into Ukraine, so that's no surprise.
Out of a total of 45 Million Ukrainians, a million went back to Russia.
And you are trying to say all Ukrainians want to go to Russia? Get real. The vast majority of Ukrainians want to get as far away from Russia as possible. The vast majority of Ukrainians are putting their lives on the line to get the hell away from Russia.
Next you'll be saying that the Bosnians wanted to stay with Serbia. Or the Chechens want to be Russians.
Good luck with that.
(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Tuesday May 02 2017, @05:47AM (5 children)
A million Russians were occupying Ukraine!? Haha, how about posting a link to this news? I must have missed it, LOL!
If "real" Ukrainians want nothing to do with Russia, then who voted for Yanukovich? Your tall tales still have no resemblance to reality.
(Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Tuesday May 02 2017, @04:42PM (4 children)
"real" Ukrainians want nothing to do with Russia, then who voted for Yanukovich?
Exactly - how Yanukovich manipulated the ballots is well documented. The only tall tales here are the ones you are telling to try to pretend that Ukrainians want to stay in Russia. Doh.
My family is Ukrainian. They want nothing to do with Russia. They are European, not slaves to the Russian dictatorship. And you Putin-lovers will never get Ukraine back as a slave state again.
The only time I've seen posts like yours is from Russians being paid in the propaganda factory out of Petersburg. Just another one of those I guess. So it's not worth spending any more time on you.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday May 02 2017, @10:16PM (3 children)
My family is Ukrainian.
Well, that explains the hostility and emotionalism..
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Tuesday May 02 2017, @10:52PM (2 children)
Well, that explains the hostility and emotionalism..
You're right. No family likes to see their kin butchered. And that is exactly what the Russians are doing. In Ukraine. In Chechnya. In Syria.
Putin should be charged with war crimes.
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday May 02 2017, @11:00PM
A lot of people should be, in fact, anybody who started a war. Question remains, How'ya gonna do it?
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 1) by fustakrakich on Tuesday May 02 2017, @11:06PM
Y'know, for the sake of argument I'll give you Ukraine and Chechnya (those wars being as old as they are), but Syria no. Somebody else, predating Putin by far (and not even from that side of the Urals), started that one.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2, Touché) by fustakrakich on Monday May 01 2017, @07:34PM
Ukraine deserves freedom from these butchers.
Yes they do... So, what should we do? Sell weapons, or invade?
All wars are about business, and Ukraine is a rich place. We use the emotional/tribal stuff to sell it to the public.
La politica e i criminali sono la stessa cosa..
(Score: 2) by shortscreen on Monday May 01 2017, @07:34PM
US is busy right now, butchering people in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Yemen. But at least we can take credit for selling weapons to Ukraine, eh?
(Score: 3, Informative) by DannyB on Monday May 01 2017, @05:43PM (3 children)
Putin needs Syria because it has a coast in a convenient location for a base. He might need to attack Israel sometime.
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(Score: 1) by Scrutinizer on Tuesday May 02 2017, @07:14AM (2 children)
What does that say about the USA's military bases in close proximity to Russia [globalresearch.ca]?
(Score: 2) by DannyB on Tuesday May 02 2017, @02:10PM (1 child)
Following the pattern, it might lead me to believe that the USA might need to attack Russia sometime.
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(Score: 1) by Scrutinizer on Tuesday May 02 2017, @05:40PM
Right, and that's exactly the sort of warmongering behavior that has no place in a country based on the principle that all people have a self-evident right to life. If the US government no longer respects that principle, that's all the more reason for USians to put our own house in order first before listening to the US corporate/government mainstream media tell us about how we need to support military action to clean up thugs somewhere else.