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posted by on Thursday May 04 2017, @10:51AM   Printer-friendly
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Submitted via IRC for Runaway1956

Guns are not a part of the culture of my homeland, except perhaps for the occasional Bollywood movie in which the bad guy meets his demise staring down the wrong end of a barrel.

My childhood in India was steeped in ahimsa, the tenet of nonviolence toward all living things.

The Indians may have succeeded in ousting the British, but we won with Gandhian-style civil disobedience, not a revolutionary war.

I grew up not knowing a single gun owner, and even today India has one of the strictest gun laws on the planet. Few Indians buy and keep firearms at home, and gun violence is nowhere near the problem it is in the United States. An American is 12 times more likely than an Indian to be killed by a firearm, according to a recent study.

It's no wonder then that every time I visit India, my friends and family want to know more about America's "love affair" with guns.

I get the same questions when I visit my brother in Canada or on my business travels to other countries, where many people remain perplexed, maybe even downright mystified, by Americans' defense of gun rights.

I admit I do not fully understand it myself, despite having become an American citizen nearly a decade ago. So when I learn the National Rifle Association is holding its annual convention here in Atlanta, right next to the CNN Center, I decide to go and find out more.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/world/indian-immigrant-nra-convention/index.html


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  • (Score: 0) by idiot_king on Thursday May 04 2017, @04:37PM (13 children)

    by idiot_king (6587) on Thursday May 04 2017, @04:37PM (#504382)

    ...and thus violence has been seen, for a long time in India, as an ineffective way to conduct oneself. Same in China and other parts of Asia, as well as Europe. They're lightyears ahead of our stupid backwards country because they've always had a cosmopolitan and, increasingly, multicultural worldview. But because America has plenty of rural and suburban jackasses who think it's still the wild west, they cling to their dying violent culture, an unholy mixture of Jesus 'n' Ammunition, as a cry to a time when you quite literally could be killed by a Grizzly bear in the middle of the night. Those days are gone, and they are not coming back. It's literally a matter of time until the horrid Second Amendment gets repealed and tossed in the wastebin of history along with such smash hits as "Separate but Equal" and "Jim Crow."
    Can't wait until these redneck chucklefucks join the 21st Century along with the rest of Earth.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 04 2017, @05:11PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 04 2017, @05:11PM (#504407)

    >as a cry to a time when you quite literally could be killed by a Grizzly bear in the middle of the night. Those days are gone, and they are not coming back.

    When did bears lose the ability to maul and kill people?

    >Same in China and other parts of Asia, as well as Europe. They're lightyears ahead of our stupid backwards country
    Sounds like you need to emigrate.

    >Can't wait until these redneck chucklefucks join the 21st Century along with the rest of Earth.
    >by idiot_king (6587) on Thursday May 04, @04:37PM (#504382)

    Username checks out. If you hate America so much, LEAVE! :P

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 04 2017, @06:15PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 04 2017, @06:15PM (#504454)

      When did bears lose the ability to maul and kill people?

      When the liberal hoppophobes and the violently imposed tyrannical government took away the constitutional right to arm bears! That's when! How long before they make it illegal to bare arms, as well? Just the other night I found a Grizzly in my kitchen, and I could only make a strong request that he leave, since Obama took away my right to have guns, just because some shrink said I was crazy! Another Social Justice Warrior Shrink!! (Oh, and the bear apologized and left. Something about "the wrong house".)

  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mayo2y on Thursday May 04 2017, @05:14PM

    by mayo2y (6520) on Thursday May 04 2017, @05:14PM (#504408)

    The sad thing is you believe the BS that you just wrote.

    Self-defense is something we did not delegate away to government. (Revenge is. But not self-defense.)

    Without guns the weaker is prey to the stronger which is why Colts were called the "great equalizer." A 100 pound woman could defend herself against a 200 pound man with a Colt in her hand.

    Finally, read up on the American Revolution, the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers and you will see the main reason for guns. It's the last check and balance on an oppressive government.

    If you are snickering about people defending themselves against the might of the government. Think again. Soldiers make an oath to the constitution, not an individual; soldiers would be firing on their own fathers and brothers and sons. Then think about what a few guys with guns were able to do in Iraq and Afghanistan.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Thursday May 04 2017, @06:10PM (9 children)

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 04 2017, @06:10PM (#504453) Journal
    I noticed an error in your title. The US is not a densely packed society. It's a mixture which contains densely packed parts and low density parts.

    It's literally a matter of time until the horrid Second Amendment gets repealed and tossed in the wastebin of history along with such smash hits as "Separate but Equal" and "Jim Crow."

    It'll probably be repealed about the same time all those other horrid rights US citizens have get repealed.

    I guess you don't have a clue why the Second Amendment is so popular these days.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 04 2017, @10:00PM (5 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 04 2017, @10:00PM (#504557)

      I guess you don't have a clue why the Second Amendment is so popular these days.

      Because a black man getting elected president scared the ever living shit out of a bunch of white snowflakes.
      The denegroification of the whitehouse has calmed all their nerves and since the election guns sales are down so much that Remington had to lay off 120 full-time employees while Smith & Wesson's share price has declined 32% #MAGA!

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @01:27AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @01:27AM (#504625)

        First, it isn't Smith & Wesson any more.
        Now it's American Outdoor Brands.

        From a March 14 article: [zerohedge.com]
        Between Election day and Mid-March, their stock went from $28.39 to $19.13. [zerohedge.com]

        -- OriginalOwner_ [soylentnews.org]

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @01:48AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @01:48AM (#504637)

        all your get whitey propaganda is just going to get more non whites killed. how do you think whites conquered the world? your race exists at our whim. you are a whining, hungry dog. get too nippy and we'll put one through your mangy head.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 05 2017, @07:06AM (2 children)

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 05 2017, @07:06AM (#504716) Journal

        Because a black man getting elected president scared the ever living shit out of a bunch of white snowflakes.

        What did Obama's blackness have to do with it? Let us keep in mind that Obama was an outspoken advocate for strong gun control. The same purchasing frenzy happened last year when Clinton, another gun control advocate, looked like she would get elected.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @09:07AM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @09:07AM (#504740)

          What did Obama's blackness have to do with it?

          What did khallow's cluelessness have to do with it?

          • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 05 2017, @02:51PM

            by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 05 2017, @02:51PM (#504893) Journal
            You do realize that panic buying [telegraph.co.uk] ahead of perceived regulation is not a new thing?
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 04 2017, @11:07PM (2 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 04 2017, @11:07PM (#504575)

      I guess you don't have a clue why the Second Amendment is so popular these days.

      Well, I'm not the idiot king you were responding to but I must admit that I don't have a clue why the Second Amendment is so popular these days. Seriously, what gives? I saw that the President appeared at an NRA convention the other day to declare that the long assault on the Second Amendment was finally over. ????? Exactly what assault was he referring to? During the Obama Presidency--perhaps the most liberal we have seen in a while--there was no new gun control legislation put into law. The most Obama did was to make half-hearted pleas against the senseless violence and call for sensible gun regulations and reforms that never materialized. Is it about the rise in violent crime? Oh, wait...violent crime is at a twenty year low. [usnews.com] Is it a fear of terrorism? Accoring to this article, [businessinsider.com] you are more than thirteen times as likely to die while choking on food than you are to die by an attack by a foreign born terrorist. You are almost six times as likely to die by an accidental gunshot as by an attack from a foreign born terrorist; apparently a lot of these Second Amendment ammosexuals would do well to fear themselves and their Second Amendment loving buddies more than the terrorists. So, what gives with this, as you put it, rise in popularity of the Second Amendment these days? More and more, this gun mania is looking like a bit of chest thumping by guys who are trying to over-compensate for something or other. Of course, if you have evidence to back up another hypothesis, I would love to see it.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @01:51AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @01:51AM (#504638)

        growing will for revolution, obviously.

      • (Score: 1) by khallow on Friday May 05 2017, @02:07AM

        by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 05 2017, @02:07AM (#504643) Journal

        the other day to declare that the long assault on the Second Amendment was finally over.

        I think it's several factors. First, it's a defense of the right to self-defense which is a universal issue. Second, it's a defense of the US Constitution, again a universal issue. It's one thing to believe that the Second Amendment is wrong, it's something else, something really malodorous, to then undermine the rule of law because you can't muster the support to repeal the Second Amendment in the legal manner. Third, there's the defense of hunting and recreational shooting. These groups don't buy that firearm restrictions won't adversely affect them and they are huge, well-organized groups.