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When uploaded to Netflix, an episode of the educational children's show "Bill Nye the Science Guy" cut out a segment saying that chromosomes determine one's gender.
[...] While noncontroversial at the time, the 1996 segment appears to contradict Netflix's new series "Bill Nye Saves the World."
The new show endorses a socially liberal understanding of gender, under which gender is defined by self-identification rather than genetics and there are more than just the two traditional genders.
People, people, people... Say it with me: The Internet Never Forgets.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by fadrian on Friday May 05 2017, @02:37PM (21 children)
Changing the meaning of already agreed-upon words is what we do in languages. It's called linguistic change. Get used to it. It will happen.
That is all.
(Score: 5, Touché) by The Mighty Buzzard on Friday May 05 2017, @02:46PM (6 children)
You're free to try. I'm free to refuse your redefinition.
My rights don't end where your fear begins.
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Friday May 05 2017, @05:04PM (3 children)
In researching this story, I have come to the conclusion that it is your side redefining 'gender' to be synonymous with 'sex'.
The words are distinct for a reason.
(Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Friday May 05 2017, @05:50PM
Indeed, and that was actually true even in the mid-90s. I recall being in a class at that time and writing a report and having an argument with a teacher because I used the word "gender" when "sex" would actually have been more appropriate. At the time I didn't realize the difference, but then I read more about it and realized how these terms were being used in research articles and such.
Yes, even when the original Bill Nye series was produced, people already knew there was a difference between the implications of the terms.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @06:16PM
Yes they are, 2 genders and multiple sexes.
(Score: 2) by Magic Oddball on Saturday May 06 2017, @06:58AM
Actually, if you check historic dictionaries, you'll find that they originally referred to the same concept, and only relatively recently diverged. From the 1828 Webster's Dictionary entry for 'gender' [webstersdictionary1828.com], for example:
GEN'DER, noun [Latin genus, from geno, gigno; Gr.to beget, or to be born; Eng. kind. Gr. a woman, a wife; Sans. gena, a wife, and genaga, a father. We have begin from the same root. See Begin and Can.]
1. Properly, kind; sort.
2. A sex, male or female. Hence,
3. In grammar, a difference in words to express distinction of sex; usually a difference of termination in nouns, adjectives and participles, to express the distinction of male and female. (...)
GEN'DER, verb transitive To beget; but engender is more generally used.
GEN'DER, verb intransitive To copulate; to breed. Leviticus 19:19.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06 2017, @12:31AM
You're free to try. I'm free to refuse your redefinition.
So if gender has a long history as describing the sexuality a person identifies as, rather than their biological sex, you would accept it? Your annoyance is purely because people are trying to change and pervert the language?
See wikipedia. [wikipedia.org]
Sexologist John Money introduced the terminological distinction between biological sex and gender as a role in 1955. Before his work, it was uncommon to use the word gender to refer to anything but grammatical categories.[1][2]
I look forward to you either champion-ing using "gender" to refer to grammatical categories, or champion-ing using it to refer to gender identity as opposed to biological sex. Assuming that you are being honest that you are upset at word re-definition.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06 2017, @03:54PM
Look at the guzzard, grabbing upmods from Neanderthals!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @02:48PM (7 children)
What's established should be preserved. Tradition should be respected. Change should be limited.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @04:07PM (5 children)
We should all be British and serve the monarchy. Etc.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday May 05 2017, @05:12PM (4 children)
No, you should all be Native Americans and serve the Gods. Etc.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 4, Touché) by Azuma Hazuki on Friday May 05 2017, @08:13PM (3 children)
No. All be caveman, all call Ugg, club deer and eat raw. Fire is liberal conspiracy! Ookha ookha ugh arg.
I am "that girl" your mother warned you about...
(Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday May 05 2017, @08:27PM (1 child)
I like it. How do I join your club?
Washington DC delenda est.
(Score: 2) by Zyx Abacab on Saturday May 06 2017, @01:53AM
Time was that people would say:
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
I guess the conspiracy got that one too.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday May 05 2017, @09:44PM
But remember, fire was forgotten until the Doctor brought matches.
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @09:28PM
Rejecting change based entirely on your fanciful whims is no traditionalism, it's merely pragmatism.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Friday May 05 2017, @04:12PM (4 children)
You're searching for "agreement"? Well, feck you very much. It's MY language, at least as much as it is yours, and I don't agree.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday May 05 2017, @05:13PM (3 children)
'Feck!'
'Arse!'
'Girls!'
'DRINK!'
--- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday May 05 2017, @05:19PM
Father Ted/Game of Thrones intro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGn1fPP8C3Q [youtube.com]
The effort put into this! "I DON'T BLOODY BELIEVE IT!!!"
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(Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Friday May 05 2017, @05:51PM (1 child)
Father Ted! How I miss that show.
(Score: 2) by Gaaark on Friday May 05 2017, @09:49PM
I hear Father Ted's a racist!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6zkL91LzCMc [youtube.com]
I love how much a show about religious folk could be sooo anti-religious, lol. Or, I guess, anti-Catholic, anyways.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 05 2017, @08:00PM
Not when you rely on public shaming campaigns to enforce your meaning against those who don't confirm to your ideology. If a concept cannot succeed on it's own merit, it deserves to die.