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posted by on Saturday May 06 2017, @01:22AM   Printer-friendly
from the the-year-of-linux-on-the-desktop dept.

The Ubuntu GNOME distros blog post tells you everything you need to know:

There will no longer be a separate GNOME flavor of Ubuntu. The development teams from both Ubuntu GNOME and Ubuntu Desktop will be merging resources and focusing on a single combined release... We are currently liaising with the Canonical teams on how this will work out.

Old hands in this field may recall a similar refocusing happened to Red Hat back in 2003. Red Hat dropped its desktop, then called Red Hat Linux, and started up Red Hat Enterprise Linux, in the process becoming the boring enterprise-focused company it is today. But it created the community based Fedora to serve as what Red Hat Linux had once been so not all was lost.

While this is the likely script for Canonical over the next few years, it is equally possible that it may not actually go this way. Canonical may stick with its desktop and still make it a major focus of its development because while the money is in enterprise, what made Ubuntu very nearly a household name is not enterprise, but community.


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  • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Saturday May 06 2017, @04:21AM (3 children)

    by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Saturday May 06 2017, @04:21AM (#505309) Journal

    With all respect, I think you completely missed *my* point. I wasn't talking about using sudo. I was talking about tweaking a few config files so you could run as root and not have to use sudo at all. I was not aware of your experience level, but I think there are plenty of folks who couldn't figure out how to tweak config files to get around Ubuntu's restrictions... I don't think most of them should be running as root because they likely don't have enough CLI experience to understand how easy it is to screw things up.

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  • (Score: 2) by its_gonna_be_yuge! on Saturday May 06 2017, @04:44AM (2 children)

    by its_gonna_be_yuge! (6454) on Saturday May 06 2017, @04:44AM (#505325)

    With all respect, I think you completely missed *my* point. ..... I don't think most of them should be running as root because they likely don't have enough CLI experience

    OK, I'll take that as an honest well-meaning response. You have a point, not everyone has experience. Where we differ is in that:

    a) I don't think a distro should take the role of deciding who has experience enough or what the risk level should be by default. I don't know any other distro that tries to nanny users. Maybe there are others (out of the hundreds that are out there) but I haven't heard of them.
    b) To some extent I think people _should_ screw up, so that they can learn.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06 2017, @05:44PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 06 2017, @05:44PM (#505489)

      This is a sensible default for your average user. It is bloody trivial for an experienced user to enable the root account, Ubuntu doesn't do anything to prevent it.

      As to your second point, people can learn by screwing up, but saying Ubuntu shouldn't use the safer default is like saying cars shouldn't have seatbelts.

      If you have other reasons for not liking or using Ubuntu, that's ok, but this is a stupidly trivial thing to complain about. Like saying you won't buy a car because they don't have your favourite station as a preset on the radio.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 07 2017, @12:21AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 07 2017, @12:21AM (#505620)

      don't be a dumb ass. that is the whole point of ubuntu, or it used to be. "linux for human beings". you are obviously a super human or alien invader so ubuntu is not made for you. so why not let the new users use ubuntu if they want to without acting like they are using an idiot's OS. it's not like they are using windows or mac. It's still largely freedom respecting, so cut them and the distro some slack. not everyone wants to learn all about computers just to surf or play games or whatever the fuck. they shouldn't have to to not be victimized by the slave traders in seattle and cupertino or to not be ridiculed by super nerds. if ubuntu wants to serve those users (and i think they should do that better) then other linux users should be glad they do that as long as they aren't scumming things up.