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posted by martyb on Sunday May 07 2017, @12:41PM   Printer-friendly
from the didn't-get-the-memo dept.

We had two Soylentils submit stories about a family being ordered off a plane by Delta Airlines.

Forced off a Delta Plane and for Keeping Their Seat

A California family used the seat their 18-year old son didn't use because he left with an earlier flight. They made use of it for their child instead, but were forced off the Delta Air Lines plane and threatened with jail after refusing to give it up on the crowded flight..

View all the raw glory or do it with some commentary.

In other news don't use the bathroom, ask for water, or be autistic.

Last time it was United Air's Abuses: Doing the Heavy-Handed Thing a Third Time.

Delta Airlines: "Give Up the Seat or You're Going to Jail"

AlterNet reports

Brian Schear, of Huntington Beach, said he and his family were flying overnight from Hawaii to Los Angeles last week when [Delta Airlines] employees asked them to give up the seat where their 2-year-old son was sitting, reported KABC-TV.

[...] "You have to give up the seat or you're going to jail, your wife is going to jail and they'll take your kids from you," Schear recalled the flight attendant saying.

Delta employees wanted the family to hold the young child in their laps during the flight, but Schear argued that they had bought the boy a ticket because he needed to sit in his car seat to sleep.

An employee inaccurately told the family the boy needed to sit in a seat with an adult, because the airline's website recommends that children under 2 years old should sit in an approved child seat in a ticketed seat of their own.

The entire family was ordered off the plane, and they stayed overnight in a hotel and bought new tickets the following day, reported KTLA-TV

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BTW, can someone tell me what ecver= in a YouTube URL means?

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United Air's Abuses: Doing the Heavy-Handed Thing a Third Time
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  • (Score: 5, Interesting) by goodie on Sunday May 07 2017, @05:55PM (3 children)

    by goodie (1877) on Sunday May 07 2017, @05:55PM (#505930) Journal

    I don't know... last year we had bought our 1.5yo daughter her own seat because we wanted to use the car seat. We boarded got settled etc. And then came along a standby stewardess who claimed that she had her seat assigned. She was polite but quite adamant about the fact that it was her seat even though I showed her the boarding pass and even the freaking bill from our travel agent showing my daughter as having her own seat. In the end she went out of the plane, made a few calls came back and claimed that she had arranged things. We just told her that there was no issue to begin with until she went and created one. Her whole point was that a 2yo or less should be on the lap. To which we told her fuck no, we are allowed to buy a ticket for her so she can have a proper restraining device...

    Overall airlines seem to do some pretty dirty things when it comes down to bumping their own... assholes.

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  • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Sunday May 07 2017, @08:33PM (1 child)

    by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Sunday May 07 2017, @08:33PM (#505975) Journal

    Thanks for that story -- sorry you had to go through that, but that sheds yet another light on this situation.

    But even then, the facts make no sense in relation to this story. The family actually had a seat for a younger (less than 2 years old) child TOO. Presumably, if the 2-year-old was in the "18-year-old's seat," then the younger kid must have been in the "2-year-old's seat." Even if something like your situation was happening, why would they try to relocate the 2-year-old to a lap (which is contrary to FAA and Delta regulations), rather than the younger child (who, presumably, the parents must have originally planned to have seated in a lap)?

    Once again, this whole situation makes no sense, and we'll probably never know what actually happened, because it's likely a combination of both parties trying to "get away with" something they shouldn't have, so they'll just settle it between themselves.

    • (Score: 2) by goodie on Monday May 08 2017, @12:26AM

      by goodie (1877) on Monday May 08 2017, @12:26AM (#506077) Journal

      I have to agree with you on that we are still missing some details but indeed if you do not board and are a no show technically the airline can give th seat to someone else. I was just venting out some frustration about airlines and standby passengers ;).

  • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday May 07 2017, @11:21PM

    by kaszz (4211) on Sunday May 07 2017, @11:21PM (#506049) Journal

    It seems the stories people tell all converge on that airlines behaves as if they can take bought seat property as they see fit. What's needed is some serious lawsuit and civil obedience. So that they will be aware of the fact that if they don't play ball no else need to return the favor.

    There must be some basic rules laid down. That when a seat position has been bought and checked in (done when entering the physical airport). The airline can't back out of the deal or they will be charged with fraud. And compensation shall be in cash or bank deposits. No f-cking vouchers for further screwline experiences.

    This also makes me wonder if they are also trying to undercut maintenance for critical parts. Just like Alaska Airlines did in 1999 with a MD80 where the service inspections were increased in direct violation of manufacturer requirements of every 600 hours to 2400 hours. The result were 88 dead.