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Emmanuel Macron has been declared the President of France after early vote counts:
France has a new president. Emmanuel Macron – an independent centrist who has never held elected office – has won a resounding victory over far-right, nationalist Marine Le Pen in the most important French presidential race in decades, according to early vote counts by the French Interior Ministry.
In early returns, Macron had won an estimated 65 percent of the vote to Le Pen's nearly 35 percent, according to the French Interior Ministry. Le Pen has already called to congratulate Macron and conceded defeat to a gathering of her supporters in Paris.
Also at The Guardian (live), Washington Post, NYT, Reuters, and The Local.
From CNBC: Euro hits six-month high on Macron victory
CNN editorial: Why Macron's victory is reassuring ... and yet not
BBC has an article about Macron's potential choice of Prime Minister.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08 2017, @09:22AM (9 children)
I think your theorem "let's assimilate muslims, so ISIS will leave us alone" needs a bit of proof. Blanket statements regarding a leftist view of immigration are routinely being disproved by facts. Isolated facts, most of the time, sure, but you need just one counter example to sink a theorem.
Of course, you being wrong does not imply the other side being right either.
(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Monday May 08 2017, @10:17AM (8 children)
sudo mod me up
(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday May 08 2017, @12:17PM (7 children)
They're no different from the nationalist or Christian terrorist movements
There seems to be a slight difference in body count, like hundreds per year in France vs "it happened once last decade to single digits in the USA"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08 2017, @01:51PM (2 children)
FYI, estimates of casualties as a consequence of e.g. the IRA, are amounting to 2000 during ca. 30 years. ETA was responsible to about 900 over a somewhat longer period (since 1960 i think).
Then, wikipedia lists 400 deaths in France due to terror since the 1970, and not all of those where because of ISIS or similar groups.
So far, it seems what you say is BS, though if they keep it up they may outdo their Christian competitors.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday May 08 2017, @08:35PM (1 child)
The IRA had nothing to do with religion, it just happens that the English have been trying to genocide the Irish race for a couple centuries, with some success here and there, and virtually all the English are prots or atheists and virtually all the Irish are catholics or atheists.
Its like claiming green beer causes terrorism because those darn IRA, LOL.
Actually a nearly perfect analogy would be to claim the sole cause of the American Civil War was the northerners were mostly prots or progs and the southerners tend baptist, so clearly the american civil war only happened because of religion.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08 2017, @10:15PM
>The IRA had nothing to do with religion,
About as much as ISIS has to do with it.
Also, you missed the point.
(Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08 2017, @04:35PM (1 child)
I also fail to see where the scripture orders to terrorize people.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday May 08 2017, @08:39PM
Ahem, old testament, ahem. Of course there's a lot of old testament that most Christians are not terribly interested in.
Also its a classic old book vs modern interpretation. Uncle Adolf was portrayed as a nice guy in Mein Kampf, a nice devout Catholic Vegetarian semi-pacifist after getting gassed in WWI, a real nice guy. Well that's an old book, whereas the modern portrayal in progressive media is not quite as complimentary toward dear uncle Adolf. So some old book said something, whatevs...
(Score: 2) by Thexalon on Monday May 08 2017, @07:01PM (1 child)
Which of these incidents are you referring to?
* 2 killed, 6 wounded at a UU Church in Knoxville TN, in 2009, by a Christian activist opposed to the UU's support of gay marriage
* 1 person, George Tiller, killed at his church in Wichita, KS, in 2009, by a Christian group opposed to abortion
* 1 officer shot and killed at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington DC, in 2009, by a white supremacist Christian
* 6 people killed, 4 wounded at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, WI in 2012, by a white supremacist Christian who apparently thought he was attacking Muslims rather than Sikhs
* 3 people killed in Las Vegas, NV, in 2014 by a couple that apparently saw their efforts as continuing the work of Cliven Bundy
* 3 people killed in a shooting at Planned Parenthood in 2015, by a Christian activist opposed to abortion
And of course it's worth noting that by far the largest and most influential terrorist group in the history of the United States has been the KKK, which is thoroughly Christian in its ideology. The line between what is Christian terrorism, what is white-supremacist terrorism, and what is neo-Nazi terrorism is often blurry because of that history.
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a compiler is a good guy with a compiler.
(Score: 2) by VLM on Monday May 08 2017, @08:31PM
So about a tenth of an French Islamic truck driver per year in a country (USA) with five times the population and about 2356246112 times the handguns.
Yeah France has a problem.