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posted by CoolHand on Monday May 08 2017, @04:59PM   Printer-friendly
from the alzheimer's-coc dept.

Last week, Phoronix broke a story about the kernel DRM group over at FreeDesktop.org submitting a pull request for their code of conduct to be included in the kernel docs for the DRM subsystem. The next day it was merged.

I'm particularly interested in if they think this will keep Linus from saying hurtful things to them over lousy code. Discuss.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by kaszz on Monday May 08 2017, @07:22PM (10 children)

    by kaszz (4211) on Monday May 08 2017, @07:22PM (#506515) Journal

    The CoC may prevent the negative feedback needed to keep a project on track. And we all know how a positive feedback loop works in the long run..

    Some people just needs to know that that their design or code just won't cut it.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Nerdfest on Monday May 08 2017, @07:24PM (6 children)

    by Nerdfest (80) on Monday May 08 2017, @07:24PM (#506516)

    Sometimes negative feedback doesn't help either. Look at Gnome/systemd.

    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Monday May 08 2017, @07:42PM (5 children)

      by frojack (1554) on Monday May 08 2017, @07:42PM (#506527) Journal

      Gnome, I'll give you. Nothing bad said about gnome made the slightest difference.

      But the negative feedback systemd received seems to have helped immensely in the documentation area. Its at least intelligible and coherent these days.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08 2017, @07:46PM (3 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08 2017, @07:46PM (#506529)

        Yeah, the tsunami of negative feedback about systemd was about the documentation.
        Pull my finger frojack!

        • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday May 08 2017, @08:46PM (2 children)

          by kaszz (4211) on Monday May 08 2017, @08:46PM (#506565) Journal

          It's probably just a defensive reaction. They know system'd is "a disaster" like the White house would put it.. But at least it's a known how the junk works.

          Now we just need to find Poetternigg and nuke from orbit to be sure.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08 2017, @10:02PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08 2017, @10:02PM (#506613)

            Your projection of what you believe to what they "know" is pretty funny.

          • (Score: 2) by DECbot on Tuesday May 09 2017, @01:05AM

            by DECbot (832) on Tuesday May 09 2017, @01:05AM (#506691) Journal

            Now we just need to find Poetternigg and nuke from orbit to be sure.

            While I approve of your methods, I disagree with the payload of your ordinance. A nuke isn't nearly enough to eradicate systemd and its originator from the solar system. I think you'd need some sort of discombobulator to obliterate a planet. Launching a firm of hive-mind lawyers against the targets might work too.

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      • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Monday May 08 2017, @08:58PM

        by Nerdfest (80) on Monday May 08 2017, @08:58PM (#506577)

        ... but it still exists.

  • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Monday May 08 2017, @08:00PM (2 children)

    The CoC may prevent the negative feedback needed to keep a project on track. And we all know how a positive feedback loop works in the long run..

    As long as reasonable people whose goal is the success of the project are executing/enforcing a CoC, that shouldn't be an issue. If someone with a different agenda is doing so, there may well be problems.

    If everyone acted professionally, and got involved to achieve a shared goal, clearly defined rules wouldn't be necessary. Sadly, there are often a few that can't or won't do so.

    Some people just needs to know that that their design or code just won't cut it.

    As I explicitly said, that sort of communication should be appropriate.

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    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday May 08 2017, @08:51PM (1 child)

      by kaszz (4211) on Monday May 08 2017, @08:51PM (#506570) Journal

      As I explicitly said, that sort of communication should be appropriate.

      The problem is that some people just can't handle declined affirmation. Be it snowflake or someone with high position in a established company that just can't hack it that a 16 year old with pimples smack their fingers at security.

      As soon as there are rules. There will also be people that find all kinds of "bu-but you broke rule 2.4.34. section z five days ago!". In the larger society they are called lawyers.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08 2017, @10:04PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 08 2017, @10:04PM (#506614)

        > The problem is that some people just can't handle declined affirmation.

        I don't think you intended to go meta with your response.
        But you sure did.