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posted by on Wednesday May 10 2017, @10:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the with-organic-high-fructose-corn-syrup dept.

The CBC reports that

Previously some French's ketchup sold in Canada was manufactured in the United States, but that's no longer the case.

The company has begun ketchup production in the North York district of Toronto, using tomatoes grown in Canada. In 2014, competitor Heinz (now Kraft Heinz) closed the factory in Leamington, Ontario where Heinz had begun; a wave of nationalist fervour followed when

[...] a Facebook post by Orillia resident Brian Fernandez went viral, extolling the virtues of French's ketchup and sympathizing with Leamington over the loss of Heinz jobs.

related story:
Kraft Heinz Proposes a $143 Billion Bid for Unilever


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by captain normal on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:29PM (15 children)

    by captain normal (2205) on Wednesday May 10 2017, @11:29PM (#507806)

    There is a great ketchup made in the USA. Of course you may have to search a bit for it cause it's sold mostly in places like Whole Foods and quality local markets. It's Sir Kensington's Ketchup. It is a bit spicy as it contains some jalapeno pepper.
    https://sirkensingtons.com/ [sirkensingtons.com]

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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:03AM (6 children)

    by edIII (791) on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:03AM (#507819)

    I modded you funny, but meant informative. Tis a good ketchup.

    With the emotions running high in here around ketchup, I'm waiting for the person to come in and yell that "mustard" is better :)

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    • (Score: 3, Funny) by charon on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:08AM (5 children)

      by charon (5660) on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:08AM (#507822) Journal
      Mustard is better.
      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:53AM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:53AM (#507862)

        It's hard to ketchup on all the posts.

        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:59AM (1 child)

          by Gaaark (41) on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:59AM (#507868) Journal

          I had to run to Dijon.

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          • (Score: 3, Touché) by AthanasiusKircher on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:18AM

            by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:18AM (#507924) Journal

            I don't relish the thought of more travel after my recent time in Worcestershire. I do think fondly back on my Hollandaise, spent with some good wine and a cheap tart-ar... Uh, fine young lady. (Whew, I'd better watch my language, or I'll end up in quite a pickle.)

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:56AM (1 child)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday May 11 2017, @01:56AM (#507865) Journal

        If I was Canadian I'd take advantage of the license that lets you take with food and use poutine instead of ketchup.

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        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:04AM

          by Gaaark (41) on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:04AM (#507871) Journal

          Sriracha sauce for my win!

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  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:57AM (7 children)

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday May 11 2017, @12:57AM (#507844)

    Sounds nasty. Why the hell would I want jalapeno in my ketchup, or anything else for that matter?

    Whole Foods does have a good ketchup though: their 365 brand ketchup. It's pretty cheap too (comparable to Heinz I think), unlike a lot of other stuff in that store, including probably your Kensington krap. They should just stick to laptop security cables.

    • (Score: 1) by arcz on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:16AM (6 children)

      by arcz (4501) on Thursday May 11 2017, @02:16AM (#507879) Journal

      It doesn't sound nasty. It sounds utterly disgusting. Brand names are brand names for a reason, they actually taste good. I don't know why so many people try to compete and yet they put out shitty competitors. Brand name loyalty? As-if. I would love to pay half as much for the generic ketchup if it weren't for the fact it's usually disgusting. I'm just glad whenever I find a generic that does not taste like shit (like Dr. Thunder, Gridlock, and many "Great Value" products, though not all of them.) I have yet to find a good generic Heinz Ketchup or Coca-Cola. No idea why they can't seem to do it...

      • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:30AM

        by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:30AM (#507926) Journal

        Kensington's is not a "generic" -- it's an alternative brand. Some people (me included) dislike standard ketchup. I find most of the normal brands way too sweet for me to want to ever put them on food; I'd choose just about any other condiment. The only ketchups I've ever come close to liking were ones quite far from the Heinz standard.

        By the way, I'm not at all saying anyone has to like what I do. But people have different tastes, and that's okay. Dominant brands are often conventional and familiar, and people like them not because there's some sort of "objective superior ketchup" but because they likely grew up eating it and taste preferences are often developed very early. Witness the regional mayo wars between Hellman's vs. Duke's, for example. Neither is objectively better for ALL PEOPLE: it's just familiar taste associations.

      • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:41AM (4 children)

        by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:41AM (#507929)

        Brand names are brand names for a reason, they actually taste good.

        Not necessarily. Major brand-name soft drinks have tasted like crap ever since they switched to HFCS, starting with New Coke and then "Coke Classic" (which is why people buy imported Mexican Coca-Cola made with cane sugar: it tastes quite different). Major brand-name soft drinks made with artificial sweeteners have always tasted disgusting.

        No, the reason that particular ketchup has a following is, IMO, because there's been a big trend in recent years in America to spice things up a lot for some reason, I guess to appeal to Latinos or something.

        You're not likely to find any generic brands at Walmart that taste any good; they're cheaper because they cut corners (even more than the regular name brands do). If you want to get away from the mass-market name-brand crap that dominates American grocery stores and try something different, go to a Trader Joe's or Whole Foods or other such market and try some other brands you've never heard of. You're going to pay for the privilege, but the food quality is usually far better. Just watch out for stupid shit where they add jalapeno or something like that. That's not the norm. Try buying stuff made in Italy; you don't have to worry about unnecessary spiciness with that, and the quality is excellent, far better than American made junk. And if you like soda, try Boylan's (made in New Jersey). You can get it at Cost Plus, and probably some other fancy grocery stores.

        • (Score: 1) by arcz on Tuesday May 16 2017, @08:08AM (3 children)

          by arcz (4501) on Tuesday May 16 2017, @08:08AM (#510441) Journal

          Most of the generic stuff tastes pretty decent. One thing I've learned is that expensive food is usually bad. The average price stuff usually tastes better.

          • (Score: 1, Troll) by Grishnakh on Tuesday May 16 2017, @01:53PM (2 children)

            by Grishnakh (2831) on Tuesday May 16 2017, @01:53PM (#510527)

            Are you a teenager? You have very poorly tuned taste buds, and probably are just addicted to the taste of HFCS. You're missing out a lot by not being able to enjoy quality food.

            • (Score: 1) by arcz on Wednesday May 24 2017, @10:30PM (1 child)

              by arcz (4501) on Wednesday May 24 2017, @10:30PM (#515160) Journal

              First, taste buds are not "tuned". Your genetics play a large part in that. There are a large number of genetic differences that affect the way people taste.

              Second, you've just assumed that certain food is higher "quality" and implied that a subjective assessment was an objective one. Degrading others based on subjective viewpoints, and even inferring that your subjective viewpoints are objective and correct is a form of snobbishness and bigotry.

              You cannot get addicted to HFCS. HFCS breaks down into simple sugars, which are not highly psychoactive. If you like the taste of HFCS, then that is personal preference. Biologically, it is normal to prefer HFCS to sugar as it has a higher sweetness profile.

              Contrary to the belief which implicitly underscores your bigoted way of thinking, processed foods are not responsible for the obesity and poor health of modern society. Processed foods are not any less healthy in general than natural ones. Glucose is glucose and fructose is fructose, whether that enters your body in the form of HFCS or fructose from an apple does not change that fact.

              The modern obesity issues we are dealing with are not a result of processed foods, but rather blame can be squarely placed on one particular invention: The Automobile.

              • (Score: 1, Troll) by Grishnakh on Thursday May 25 2017, @02:20AM

                by Grishnakh (2831) on Thursday May 25 2017, @02:20AM (#515244)

                It's funny how you're trying to defend yourself here because you feel insulted.

                First, taste buds are not "tuned"

                Bullshit. Ever hear of an "acquired taste"? You get used to things, and when you don't eat a lot of shit, and start eating quality food, you taste things you never tasted before.

                Degrading others based on subjective viewpoints, and even inferring that your subjective viewpoints are objective and correct is a form of snobbishness and bigotry.

                There's nothing subjective about regular American mass-market foods being shit. They have horrible quality and nutritional value.

                You cannot get addicted to HFCS.

                Bullshit. You can get addicted to anything at all. HFCS doesn't break down into simple sugars, it already IS simple sugars. You can't break down glucose and fructose than it already is, except when either it's processed in the liver (fructose) or used by your cells (glucose).

                Biologically, it is normal to prefer HFCS to sugar as it has a higher sweetness profile.

                Exactly, that's why it's addictive. Go google for "sugar addiction"; it's a real thing.

                Contrary to the belief which implicitly underscores your bigoted way of thinking,

                Here you go again with the name-calling to justify to yourself your shitty food choices and poor nutrition.

                processed foods are not responsible for the obesity and poor health of modern society. Processed foods are not any less healthy in general than natural ones.

                Wrong. Loading your foods up with sugar that doesn't need to be there makes it more palatable to Americans like you who don't know what proper food tastes like and have a sugar addiction, and all that sugar means more calories that you're ingesting, which turn directly into cellular fat.

                but rather blame can be squarely placed on one particular invention: The Automobile.

                The car is indeed a big factor, but it's not the only one. Mexicans are even more obese as a nation than Americans, and they don't have as many cars. Their diet is worse though. Diet is a primary factor in health whether you want to believe it or not, and the garbage that American grocery stores sell you is a big part of America's obesity epidemic.