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Microsoft's only choice to move forward is to throw the Win32 baby out with the bathwater. And that brings us to the introduction of Windows 10 S.
Windows 10 S is just like the Windows 10 you use now, but the main difference is it can only run apps that have been whitelisted to run in the Windows Store. That means, by and large, existing Win32-based stuff cannot run in Windows 10 S for security reasons.
To bridge the app gap, Microsoft is allowing certain kinds of desktop apps to be "packaged" for use in the Windows Store through a tooling process known as Desktop Bridge or Project Centennial.
The good news is that with Project Centennial, many Desktop Win32 apps can be re-purposed and packaged to take advantage of Windows 10's improved security. However, there are apps that will inevitably be left behind because they violate the sandboxing rules that are needed to make the technology work in a secure fashion.
"A casualty of those sandboxing rules is Google's Chrome browser. For security reasons, Microsoft is not permitting desktop browsers to be ported to the Store."
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by kurenai.tsubasa on Thursday May 11 2017, @03:54PM (10 children)
No, not every article has to be about women being excluded from programming…. Before I get into that, I also noticed that Google Chrome won't work under Windows 10 S, not because of an arch or ABI/API change but because of Digital Restrictions Management, when this article was in the submissions yesterday. Is it time for another anti-trust lawsuit to remind M$ why that's not cool?
This seems to be the first actual step I've seen from the “misogynerds” in tech to exclude women¹ from programming, and I'm certain M$ was not even intending that. Mostly certain, anyway. Who knows. All I know is how I learned programming, and that was with a computer that booted into a BASIC interpreter, back before the IBM AT architecture became popular.
However, it couldn't be effective without the part feminism (and their sexually abusive white knights) plays with their “misogynerd narrative.” What follows is pure fantasy on my part, because a woman would never install GNU/Linux or a BSD since it's been all over the news for years that installing any of those OSes will get you raped and sexually harassed by incels.
Engage fantasy! Locate U+261B (“☛”) for the tl;dr section.
If you're an adolescent woman and you have Christian parents, they'll very likely disapprove of your going anywhere near the family computer, and you probably will get sticker shock looking at one of the machines Pino P linked (that 15" System76 model looks soooooo tempting though). Therefore, it would behoove you to purchase a Computer of One's Own. The best thing to get right now is a refurbished laptop. There are decent machines to be found on Amazon for $200–$300 that would be perfect for perhaps going the whole nine yards and learning how to compile a Linux from Scratch (of One's Own). If not, Gentoo or a BSD will suffice because fuck systemd.
Having obtained a Computer of One's Own with money easily earned from 40 some odd hours × $8/hr working a summer job for 2–3 weeks (first job, can only get 15 hrs/wk), an adolescent woman will then be able to learn anything she desires about programming with tools freely available to her. She will be able to read over the source code for any part of even the operating system and compiler toolchain itself! She will be empowered to experiment and make change and scratch any itch! This is a machine that she truly owns and is truly empowering.
Buyer beware! Here comes M$! If she buys a lapto^Wdevice running the newest iteration of Windows 10, she can forget learning anything about programming that M$ feels it's not her place to learn. She'll need to cough up a monthly or annual M$ tax. I remember being young once too, and money can get tight very quickly. Will she still feel that coughing up the M$ tax is worth it, or might this push her into a less expensive hobby? Maybe she'll take up something M$ thinks is more a woman's place, such as sewing. Everybody needs clothes, and by the power of my artificial dilemma, she'll probably just opt to get a sewing machine instead.
What a huge success for M$ and misogynerds everywhere! Yet another woman turned away from programming by proprietary software, SaaS (OperatingSystem aaS? Future Windows: Operating System Ass. Very apt, except it probably won't include the Ubuntu subsystem, so it won't be apt at all), and vendor lock-in!
Disclaimer: Yeah, I give a shit, but I guess if you're an assigned male, you have to engage in sexual abuse and exploitation of women to be somebody feminism approves of [soylentnews.org], unless you run Linux or a BSD since those are icky and only used by incels, unless you've appropriated and raped the female form instead of an actual woman, so I doubt I'll ever make it as an assigned male feminist.
¹ Actually, this will have more of an impact on minorities, but since when did feminism give a crap about minority women? There was something about intersectionalism, but I couldn't hear it above the sound of white upper-middle class womyn-born-womyn who didn't have the time to wait for somebody to speak on the behalf of minority women before marching on Washington. Oh well, at least feminists acknowledge that was problematic.
☛ tl;dr! Free software is feminist software (or would be if they'd just can the “misogynerd” thing already). Closed source proprietary software, SaaS, and vendor lock-in-lock-down are artifacts of the patriarchy.
(Score: 3, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:01PM (1 child)
No, not every article has to be about women being excluded from programming…. Before I get into that,
But apparently every kurenai comment does.
(Score: 1) by Scruffy Beard 2 on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:45PM
She bit her tongue a few times in recent days.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @04:23PM (1 child)
I want to be a misogynerd! That sounds way cooler than "Mr. President", or any of those other stupid titles. I'll bet most girls can't even spell misogynerd. Thank you kurenai.tsubasa, whatever the fuck you are! You're an inspiration.
(Score: 0, Offtopic) by kurenai.tsubasa on Thursday May 11 2017, @05:43PM
You're welcome! One small nitpick. Here's GamerGate: A Closer Look At The Controversy Sweeping Video Games [forbes.com] by Erik Kain of Forbes. Please reference section 2 under “Interlude - Definitions:”
The same forces behind the "Gamers are Over" campaign have batted about plenty of labels to describe their opponents in recent days and weeks. "Gross nerd" evolved quickly into "Misogynerd" which is a super convenient way to label a large and diverse group of people as both icky nerds and misogynists.
While I don't have a primary source here to demonstrate its usage, I'm confident that womyn-born-womyn are able to spell “misogynerd.”
Also, you shouldn't refer to adult females as “girls,” because that may trivialize them. For more information, please see In & Around Language: Girl vs. Woman [thecrimson.com] by Valeria M. Pelet of The Harvard Crimson. However, a potential rebuttal to the second-wave feminist idea that referring to a grown woman as a “girl” is inherently insulting may be found in the pilot of the 2015 series Supergirl [wikipedia.org] wherein Cat Grant dubs Kara “Supergirl,” to Kara's initial chagrin. At the same time, being a fictional woman like Xena and Captain Janeway, Cat Grant may be instead be acting as a tool of the patriarchy, having been written by men for men. So, it's complicated.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by idiot_king on Thursday May 11 2017, @06:03PM (5 children)
You are clearly repurposing the plight of literally billions of women over the years to troll for comments. Misogyny and sexism are NOT jokes, and they are NOT tools to be used by people like you to gain leverage over others.
Please don't be so vain, or at least transparent, about it.
The usual rule applies here: places like 4chan are for trolling, not SN. Keep it there.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 11 2017, @08:04PM
The usual rule applies here: places like 4chan are for trolling, not SN. Keep it there.
Ha! You must be new around here.
Freedom of (legal, that won't get the site shut down or the management arrested/sued) speech is the rule here.
So don't STFU. Say whatever you want. But understand that the moderation system generally does a pretty good job with the trolls.
Browse at +1 or +2 and you'll never see it.
I'm not a fan of trolls, but they have as much right to be here as you. Given your attitudes toward silencing speech you don't like, I'd rather read a troll post.
(Score: 0, Flamebait) by kurenai.tsubasa on Thursday May 11 2017, @10:14PM
You are clearly repurposing the plight of literally billions of women over the years to troll for comments.
Where did I do this?
Misogyny and sexism are NOT jokes, and they are NOT tools to be used by people like you to gain leverage over others.
Who am I gaining leverage over?
What about this quote from a feminist [wikipedia.org]?
All transsexuals rape women's bodies by reducing the real female form to an artifact, appropriating this body for themselves .... Transsexuals merely cut off the most obvious means of invading women, so that they seem non-invasive.
Who is using the issue of rape to gain leverage over whom here? That is a feminist talking about my own goddamned body.
Women are underrepresented in programming jobs, and that does make me sad. However, the approach feminism has chosen, which is to lay the blame for this problem at the feet of half the planet's population (over 3.5 billion and counting) and only their feet makes me livid. When feminism also seeks bathroom laws and to paint every trans woman as a bathroom rapist in the media, that makes me an excessive amount of rage. Not only is the problem my fault, it's even more my fault because I'm trans, and I don't count as a woman anyway to feminists. Not only do they reduce my body to a piece of “leverage” as you put it and a sexual object, but they have the goddamned fucking gall to tell me what I'm thinking as a sexual object and to tell me what my sexual orientation is over all demonstrable evidence of actual people I've bumped nasties with in bed.
Unlike “male feminists,” I'm not posting for the purpose of luring womyn-born-womyn in for sexual assault. I'm not talking about the barriers womyn-born-womyn face in programming careers because I think it'll get laid me. I am attracted to men exclusively, thank you very much. And it frankly pisses me the fuck off that feminism gives these goddamned assholes who have devoted so much time and energy to throwing every other assigned male in a programming job (including trans women like me, and yes, this has happened to me PERSONALLY, FACE TO FUCKING FACE) under the fucking bus a pass when they are out committing actual fucking rape-rape or whatever the fuck you want to call it.
Look dude, I don't need to recount every last incident I've had where I've endured sexual harassment and even molestation from womyn-born-womyn. Nobody would want to read it, and if my post up there is tl;dr, holy shit!
And here's Microsoft!!!!!!! Here's fucking Microsoft! If a woman has a copy of Windows 7 installed or even Windows 8, I can help her install a Python environment so she can get started. Once Microsoft is done with their shit, if somebody wants to learn programming, they WILL need to install Linux (or BSD or whatever) if they cannot afford the M$ tax. After my ex-parents threw me out (which they likely would have done anyway if I'd been cisfemale and insistent on learning something like programming), there is NO FUCKING WAY I would have afforded a M$ tax, especially a goddamned SaaS subscription!
Do you have any fucking idea what kind of barrier to entry that will create? Do you?
NO YOU DON'T. YOU DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ACTUALLY SOLVING THIS PROBLEM, DO YOU?! ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS GO BACK TO THAT QUOTE FROM JANICE RAYMOND AND ACT LIKE I'M THE GODDAMNED PROBLEM HERE, JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT BEING A FUCKING SEX OBJECT FOR YOUR HUNNIES!
But you know what? I don't try to do anything about this problem any more other than bitching on SN. You know why? Because of rapists like the one we had a story about the other day I linked to have convinced YOU that anybody assigned the male gender at birth NO MATTER WHAT FUCKING BODY PARTS THEY HAVE, NO MATTER THEIR LIVED GENDER who programs computers is a rapist. It does not matter how many of you goddamned feminists/white knights are PROVEN IN COURT TO BE RAPISTS. You have convinced the world that ANY assigned male who is upset about being reduced to HER (the assigned male's own) body parts, and not even her actual body parts, THE FUCKING BODY PARTS YOU JUST PRESUME SHE HAS must be the problem. And if they want to help, THEY'RE EVEN MORE OF A PROBLEM.
SO FUCK YOU.
(Score: 4, Informative) by kurenai.tsubasa on Thursday May 11 2017, @10:40PM (2 children)
I'm not done yet.
Do you even remember the bad old days when if you wanted to write an application for Windows 3.11, you needed to buy a $500 or $1,000 (1990s dollars to boot) book set and compiler?
How fucking ignorant are you? This is that all over again, but it's even worse. Because of Digital Restrictions Management and UEFI lockdown, there's going to be no DJGPP this time around! Do you even know what DJGPP is? If not, you can go fuck yourself, because you're not qualified to be in this discussion.
And look at you. You're running through the exact same goddamned script that feminists and white knights run through. Here's a person who's been victimized by sexist policies and even molested who is angry at being blamed for the lack of female computer programmers TO HER FUCKING FACE IN REAL FUCKING LIFE. Here's a person whose access to medical care has been fucked with before by feminists as revenge for something that was caused by OBAMACARE! I HAVE TO DRIVE OVER 300 MILES ROUND TRIP TO SEE A DOCTOR BECAUSE OF FEMINIST TRANSPHOBIA. Here's a person who IS a woman, BUT DOES NOT COUNT AS A WOMAN IN YOUR SOLE JUDGEMENT.
But nope, here's the projection!
You are clearly repurposing the plight of literally billions of women over the years to troll for comments.
Apparently, somebody setting up a fake porn company and deceiving women for sex is a better person than I am!
Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. And fuck you. And how many women have you raped lately? How many pussies have you grabbed lately? Why don't you try grabbing my pussy (because if you saw me you'd think I have one) so that when you feel an overgrown clit instead I can just knee you in the junk!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 12 2017, @05:29AM
There are PLENTY of articles on this site about feminism. Why does it have to be brought up in this article? This one is about walled gardens, wouldn't it create better discourse to stay on that topic?
(Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday May 12 2017, @02:59PM
You said you weren't going to talk about gender stuff, spent one paragraph on the technical question, then rambled for 8 more about gender stuff.
Just because we don't want to hear you turn every conversation into one about gender doesn't mean we actually disagree with you, either.
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"