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posted by mrpg on Saturday May 13 2017, @06:03AM   Printer-friendly
from the first-the-talkies-now-the-onlinies dept.

Official press release

The Cannes Film Festival is taking a stand against Netflix. Responding to a rumor that the streaming service's Okja, directed by Bong Joon Ho, and The Meyerowitz Stories, directed by Noah Baumbach, would be excluded from awards consideration after being included in the Competition lineup, the festival released a statement clarifying and adjusting its positioning going forward. The short version: From now on, if you want to compete at Cannes, your movie had better be released in French movie theaters—not just online.

There has long been a point of tension between Cannes and Netflix, to the extent where the inclusion of Okja and The Meyerowitz Stories came as a bit of a surprise. Netflix films had previously been snubbed and festival officials had advocated for "discouraging" the streaming service's online-first approach to release. The two movies included in Cannes' lineup this year are slated for theatrical bows stateside, but according to the festival's official statement, "no agreement has been reached" to get the moves into French cinemas and the effort to reach one was made "in vain." However, the statement does clarify that this rule goes into effect next year, so Okja and The Meyerowitz Stories will remain in competition and eligible for the Palme d'Or.

Seems the Cannes Film Festival is less about film and more about an outdated business model.


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  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 13 2017, @08:22AM (19 children)

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 13 2017, @08:22AM (#509055) Journal

    Nice list. Wish the exception of "Pulp Fiction", it would make a great list for the stupidest fucking movies of all time.

    Stay ignorant and be happy with whatever Hollywood feeds down on your throat.
    I reckon you believe Transformers and whatever Marvel and Disney shits lately on the market is top notch in the matter of movies.

    Good God! I'll let aside you ignorance of world movies, but... "Taxi driver" and "Apocalypse Now" on your list of "stupidest fucking movies"? Oh, the horror!
    You... you stupid, stupid... ARGGHHHHH!!!

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 13 2017, @09:14AM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 13 2017, @09:14AM (#509061)

    "Taxi driver" and "Apocalypse Now" on your list of "stupidest fucking movies"? Oh, the horror!

    Taxi driver. A taxi driver dies in a shootout with a pimp to save a girl from prostitution. Most memorable part (and dumb) the taxi driver pointing a gun in a mirror saying "You talking to me?". Just a horribly lame movie.

    Apocalypse Now. Probably even worse than Taxi driver. Give anyone a camcorder, some army outfits and prop guns, and about 20 hits of acid and they could make that steaming pile of dog shit.

    I have to agree with the parent post. I'd hate to come over to your place and watch a movie, because I can imagine you driving around town with your windows down listening to the national anthem at max volume on repeat, because it's the best song!

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 13 2017, @09:46AM (3 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 13 2017, @09:46AM (#509067) Journal

      Most memorable part (and dumb) the taxi driver pointing a gun in a mirror saying "You talking to me?". Just a horribly lame movie.

      De gustibus non disputandum est. Your right to opinion.
      But like it or not, just don't pretend there's nothing remarkable about it.

      I can imagine you driving around town with your windows down listening to the national anthem at max volume on repeat

      Oh, surprise!!... a wild imagination for a tasteless person. Even more, a person who thinks Apocalypse Now is about patriotism (the horror... the horror!!!)

      Anyway, I'm curious which anthem your imagination tells you I'm listening on repeat?
      See... I immigrated in Australia from a former communist East European country. Apart from the Australian anthem (that would be one), the country of origin changed its anthem about 3 times while I was living here. I can't decide which of the four you imagine I'm listening.
      I hope it's not the one with a land free of the brave, I simply can't stand the tune (de gustibus...)

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      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:07PM (2 children)

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:07PM (#509106) Journal

        Apart from the Australian anthem (that would be one)

        So..."Down Under" or "Come On Eileen!"?

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        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:35PM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:35PM (#509118) Journal

          Ooops... seems like 5 of them. Surely I'd drive around town listening Down Under on repeat, but driving is so boring when limited to just around the town.

          The other one... mmm... is something with the four that are young and free and toiling. Meanwhile we are no longer just four, many not so young anymore, but for sure the toiling continues.

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        • (Score: 2) by AthanasiusKircher on Saturday May 13 2017, @03:47PM

          by AthanasiusKircher (5291) on Saturday May 13 2017, @03:47PM (#509184) Journal

          Waltzing Matilda, obviously.... :)

          "Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong...."

    • (Score: 2) by MostCynical on Saturday May 13 2017, @11:16AM

      by MostCynical (2589) on Saturday May 13 2017, @11:16AM (#509090) Journal

      Joseph Conrad who?

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    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:11PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:11PM (#509108) Journal

      You didn't even like the Flight of the Valkyries scene? I didn't have much use for the rest of the movie but that scene was pretty good.

      Personally my favorite Vietnam movie was Full Metal Jacket. The dark humor was great, and it had more quotable lines. Though, "How much can I get for $10?" is one I've learned not to repeat in front of my Korean wife...

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    • (Score: 2) by NotSanguine on Sunday May 14 2017, @03:08AM

      Taxi driver. A taxi driver dies in a shootout with a pimp to save a girl from prostitution. Most memorable part (and dumb) the taxi driver pointing a gun in a mirror saying "You talking to me?". Just a horribly lame movie.

      I don't know. I thought the reaction Cybil Shepard's character when Travis Bickle (DeNiro) takes her to a porno movie, coupled with Bickle's complete confusion as to the reason for her discomfort and disgust were more memorable.

      That, of course, set him on the path to first trying to kill the candidate for whom the Shepard character worked, and then to trying to "free" the Jodi Foster character and all the violence that entailed. The "mirror" scene just added to the sense that Bickle was coming completely unhinged.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 13 2017, @11:48AM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 13 2017, @11:48AM (#509097)

    Stay ignorant and be happy with whatever Hollywood feeds down on your throat.

    What a false dichotomy. Maybe he doesn't like any of these movies. I know I don't.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday May 14 2017, @05:17AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 14 2017, @05:17AM (#509363) Journal

      Not liking them doesn't make them stupid.
      I profoundly dislike Dostoevsky's style, does this make any of his novels stupid?

      (I also dislike Bieber, does this make his music stupid? Of course it does! But there are lotsa... mmm... beings that like hm).

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:26PM (1 child)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:26PM (#509113)

    Dear god, I was desperate on a flight recently and rewatched Rogue One... I really thought Disney would improve the quality of Star Wars after the prequel nightmares. I can believe the prequels seem decent in comparison.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:44PM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:44PM (#509121) Journal

      Dear god, I was desperate on a flight recently and rewatched Rogue One...

      I know the feeling.
      Even worse when flying for 14 hours over the Indian Ocean without a stop and with no other way to have a dose of nicotine other than chewing gum.

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  • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:36PM (3 children)

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Saturday May 13 2017, @12:36PM (#509119) Journal

    I dunno. The list of great movies is not so absolute. "Taxi Driver" was a big 'meh' for me. Maybe it was impressive when it came out because of the context of the time, but I found it dull. 2001 is like that, too, I think. Audiences who saw it when it first came out were all "oooh," and "aaah," but I saw Star Wars, Star Trek, and a million other sci-fi movies before I saw it and found it incredibly slow. For me its one saving grace were HAL's lines.

    Apocalypse Now had a couple good scenes like the helicopter attack and water buffalo slaughter, but overall was ponderous as many films from the 70's were because they were trying to be so political and subversive. Maybe it was mind-blowing for the people whose first Vietnam film was that one, but I had already seen pretty much all the others first and the maudlin throughline of the genre had already lost my interest.

    Then you have the movies that turn on the knife-edge of editing. Blade Runner and Brazil spring to mind. The director's cut of those two were brilliant, the cinematic releases forgettable. The final scene of the good version of Brazil blew me away. The final scene of the good version of Blade Runner had many more undertones of pathos than the cinematic release.

    And then there are phenomenal foreign films that seem to never get included in Best Film lists, like Guru Dutt's Pyaasa, Akira Kurosawa's Ikiru, or Bahman Ghobadi's A Time for Drunken Horses or Turtles Can Fly.

    And then there are the ones that are near misses but had brilliant parts, like the one that launched Russell Crowe's international career, Romper Stomper.

    Lastly there are guilty pleasures. I love Zoolander because even after watching it a hundred times it still makes me laugh.

    YMMV

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    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Saturday May 13 2017, @01:08PM (2 children)

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 13 2017, @01:08PM (#509127) Journal

      I dunno. The list of great movies is not so absolute.

      True, but I didn't ask recognition for great movies, just an admission for remarkable ones.

      Apocalypse Now had a couple good scenes like the helicopter attack

      I liked better the "Hey, man, you don't talk to the Colonel. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. [aso] ..."
      I think it explains perfectly how the horror became (and becomes) possible.

      I love Zoolander because even after watching it a hundred times it still makes me laugh.

      YMMV

      I couldn't stand it even the only time I watched it. And I watched it during a Friday-night-beer-and-stupid-movies-marathon.
      (I reckon this is a clear demonstration that, for each and every one, there are things in this world for which there's no such thing as too much beer).
      But I do have a weakness for "Crank: High Voltage".

      Have you tried "Cloud atlas"?

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      • (Score: 2) by takyon on Saturday May 13 2017, @04:00PM

        by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Saturday May 13 2017, @04:00PM (#509189) Journal

        When I see Jason Statham in a movie, I'm always waiting for him to go full Crank/Crank 2.

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      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday May 15 2017, @11:51AM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday May 15 2017, @11:51AM (#509951) Journal

        Was Crank: High Voltage the one where they have sex in the middle of a crowd to keep his heart beating? Classic film scene, that.

        Cloud Atlas was a remarkable film, too. I've never seen a plot structured like it.

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  • (Score: 2) by Celestial on Sunday May 14 2017, @03:20AM (2 children)

    by Celestial (4891) on Sunday May 14 2017, @03:20AM (#509332) Journal

    To be fair, the two "Guardians of the Galaxy" films are both really good IMO.

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday May 14 2017, @05:20AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 14 2017, @05:20AM (#509365) Journal

      And I like Chaplin's "Modern Times"... one hundred years after and they are still actual.

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    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Monday May 15 2017, @11:54AM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday May 15 2017, @11:54AM (#509952) Journal

      Haven't seen the second one yet but the first is a strong combination of good cast, snappy writing, and a fun soundtrack that pulls everything together for me as a Gen-Xer the way Forrest Gump's soundtrack did for Baby Boomers.

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