Submitted via IRC for TheMightyBuzzard
On Thursday, President Donald Trump signed a long-awaited executive order on cybersecurity.
Mainly, the order requires a number of cybersecurity reviews across the various agencies of the federal government, in order to determine what must be done to strengthen federal computer systems, as well as United States' critical infrastructure.
Here are some industry reactions to the executive order Help Net Security received.
Source: https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2017/05/12/reactions-trump-cybersecurity/
(Score: 0, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 15 2017, @03:20PM (12 children)
How are you in such a thick bubble? The former DNI and Head of the FBI and the new acting head have all said the Russians definitively attempted to influence the election and refuse to comment on the current administrations involvement due to an ongoing investigation.
You really think the press is just making stuff up? Or are they perhaps reporting on what the actual people involved are saying?
Or are you one of those cerebral thinkers that say "Show us the evidence", as if law enforcement routinely discloses all of their evidence mid-investigation?
(Score: 3, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 15 2017, @04:05PM (6 children)
I'll tell you what rational people most likely think. That Trump made a lot of money in Russia, and naturally he has ties to Russia. He married a Russian, which makes his ties to Russia even stronger. Some people in Russia probably like him. A lot of people in Russia probably dislike Hillary quite a lot. So, Russians, as well as the Russian government naturally preferred that Trump would win over Hillary.
Given that Trump has ties to Russia, and that the Democrats have been working overtime to demonize Russia as well as Russians, it seems reasonable that the Dems are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
I withhold final judgement. Trump ain't squeaky clean, after all. A lot of people dislike him, with good reason. But, at this point in time, there is no reason to think he is actually dirty. Let the investigation proceed.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 15 2017, @04:50PM (2 children)
He married a Russian, which makes his ties to Russia even stronger.
You're geographically challenged as well, Runaway? [wikipedia.org]
Or maybe you were thinking of Ivana? Wrong again:
I get it now. I know, you're referring to Marla Maples! Oh, wait [wikipedia.org]:
Okay. I guess I missed the Russian wife. Or not. What was the rest of what you were going on about? It may well be more useful/accurate than this, but given the complete lack of (easily checked) of knowledge about this, I stopped reading there.
(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday May 15 2017, @06:40PM (1 child)
Yugoslavia was a Soviet Socialist Republic, until the Soviet fell. That's pretty "Russian" from a geopolitical point of view. It's Russian enough for the Dems who want to demonize Russia, and Trump. Anything on the other side of the old Iron Curtain counts.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 15 2017, @10:12PM
Yugoslavia was a Soviet Socialist Republic, until the Soviet fell. That's pretty "Russian" from a geopolitical point of view. It's Russian enough for the Dems who want to demonize Russia, and Trump. Anything on the other side of the old Iron Curtain counts.
You've once again shown your ignorance, Runaway. Perhaps you should learn a little about what you're talking about before spouting off. [wikipedia.org]
Here's a taste for you [wikipedia.org]:
Once again, it's clear that you're talking out of your ass.
I'll give you an analogy (sorry, no cars involved) and I'll use small words so you'll be sure to understand:
IIRC you're in Arkansas, right?
Arkansas was part of the Confederacy. By your logic, that makes you a racist proponent of human slavery and a traitor to the United States right?
Good job!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 15 2017, @05:02PM
Melania is Slovenian. Slovenia is pretty much on the US Empire side. Russia's friend in that area is Serbia, which the Empire has decimated over the last 20 years.
Otherwise, I completely agree with your post.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday May 15 2017, @05:17PM
Rationalization and rational aren't actually the same thing.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 15 2017, @11:51PM
Some people in Russia probably like him.
Yeah, and many more dislike him. This might come as a surprise to you, but even in Capitalist Russia, people don't like corporate magnates. Hatred for the corporate elite is the one universal feeling that binds all cultures on the planet.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by jmorris on Monday May 15 2017, @04:59PM (4 children)
When Sen Diane Feinstein says there is no evidence that is a statement against interest so I tend to believe her. She sits on the committees who would have seen all of the classified intel so she is in a position to know about any nefarious stuff too secret to talk about in public.
As for what we do know, Russia did indeed attempt to stop Hillary Clinton and thus prevented World War IV. They did exactly what every country has been doing since countries became interconnected enough to make it feasible and the horror of Democracy made it possible. They are accused of trying to influence U.S. policy in the best way possible, by providing the voters with timely and accurate information. In other words, they are charged with committing Journalism with intent to influence an election. Had a U.S. based media outlet did the same thing it could have had a Pulitzer Prize for its trouble, but of course we no longer have a press. In America in $current_year, journalism is no longer a profession it is a tactic used by The Party against its enemies.
When the Russians start trying to influence our political system with assassinations and smart bombs I'll have a problem with it. But for now, Hillary Clinton was a far greater threat to America than Putin could even aspire to become and if he gets a small share of the credit for defeating her it is a fair deal. Sometimes it takes a monster to beat a monster.
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Monday May 15 2017, @05:29PM
The former DNI and Head of the FBI and the new acting head have all said the Russians definitively attempted to influence the election and refuse to comment on the current administrations involvement due to an ongoing investigation.
When Sen Diane Feinstein says there is no evidence that is a statement against interest so I tend to believe her.
And the bubble thickens! You are willfully conflating two topics. Feinstein says she hasn't seen evidence of COLLUSION:
“You don’t have to provides us with any classified information, Senator, but do you believe—do you have evidence that there was in fact collusion between Trump associates and Russia during the campaign?” asked CNN’s Wolf Blizter.
“Not at this time,” replied Feinstein.
Also, "not having seen" != "doesn't exist"
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 15 2017, @06:38PM
World War IV
Are you counting John Titor's original timeline when N-day happened in 2015? I guess from that perspective, the conflict the led to N-day in 2025 could be considered a fourth world war, but in 2042 we generally don't count events that are beyond the Stein's limit.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 16 2017, @01:47AM (1 child)
Lol finally you flat out state your position. "Democracy is a failed system and Russia is A OK.". Just because your own country is a corrupt failure for its people doesn't give you the right to tear down others. Democracy is the best system, but your overlords don't like it because it steadily tears power out of their dry half dead fingers.
I don't know what to make of someone like yourself. Who really advocates for tyranny and corruption? You obviously, but what has bought you off? Money? Promises of power? Moving up the ladder so you can have some poor bastards lick your boots to a shine?
(Score: 1) by butthurt on Tuesday May 16 2017, @02:44AM
If I recall correctly, the other poster has described himself as NRx, short for neoreactionary. Neoreactionaries are indeed against democracy--not to say that American presidential elections are especially democratic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoreactionary [wikipedia.org]