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posted by on Tuesday May 16 2017, @03:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the wassup-prof? dept.

At the start of my teaching career, when I was fresh out of graduate school, I briefly considered trying to pass myself off as a cool professor. Luckily, I soon came to my senses and embraced my true identity as a young fogey.

After one too many students called me by my first name and sent me email that resembled a drunken late-night Facebook post, I took a very fogeyish step. I began attaching a page on etiquette to every syllabus: basic rules for how to address teachers and write polite, grammatically correct emails.

Over the past decade or two, college students have become far more casual in their interactions with faculty members. My colleagues around the country grumble about students' sloppy emails and blithe informality.

[...] Sociologists who surveyed undergraduate syllabuses from 2004 and 2010 found that in 2004, 14 percent addressed issues related to classroom etiquette; six years later, that number had more than doubled, to 33 percent. This phenomenon crosses socio-economic lines. My colleagues at Stanford gripe as much as the ones who teach at state schools, and students from more privileged backgrounds are often the worst offenders.

-- submitted from IRC

Source: The New York Times


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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 16 2017, @06:23PM (7 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 16 2017, @06:23PM (#510653)

    lol! Er, I mean, surely you jest, sir!

    I'll tell you what I did-I went to a school that I could afford

    Now you have a problem. If you want me to give a shit about what you just wrote, tell me why college costs four times as much these days and why wages have been stagnant with decreasing upward mobility since you went.

    No, on second thought, don't bother, because you can't. You're just going to write "blablablabla HARD WORK blablablablabla."

    It's time we end social security. Right now. End it. I am tired of forking over my paycheck to support your ass.

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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 16 2017, @07:15PM (6 children)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 16 2017, @07:15PM (#510681)

    Keep crying little whiner.
    I paid social security all my life to take care of those who aged out before me. I'm not complaining. The thought that I'd be relying on SS is just another example of your entitled attitude, bitch. If we get rid of SS now, who's going to take care of your old ass? Mine is already taken care of.
    Newsflash and shock for you... I saved my money too. I didn't buy the latest video game or phone (course, they weren't invented yet). I didn't waste my money on expensive cars or other shit I didn't need. I worked every summer and every weekend and holiday when I was in college. You should try some real work. It was good for me to see exactly why I was going to college.
    College cost more today than it did when I was in school. Aw too bad. So do a lot of other things. Does the world owe you a degree? I'll help you with this one because you don't get it - NO. I went to a public university and lived at home. I never found the time or reason to complain about that. It's what I could afford, I made the best of it. I didn't get to go to RPI or Cal Tech because I couldn't afford it. When you realize that you are working now, sacrificing now for something in your future, rather than instant gratification, you will understand. When you have your own kids and are putting them through school, you can look back on the good decisions you made. Welcome to the real world, it's actually pretty nice here. All that you did all those years ago, now paying off. (Except the little detail that the real world doesn't owe you a damn thing.)

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 16 2017, @08:45PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 16 2017, @08:45PM (#510742)

      Of course, you got yours so screw everyone else. The public university you attended was far more highly subsidized than public universities today. I'm near retirement and went to a public univeristy so this is true for me as well. You didn't do it on your own to the extent you want to believe.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 16 2017, @08:58PM (3 children)

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 16 2017, @08:58PM (#510749)

      Typical entitled "I got mine so screw you" jerk.

      Your public university education (and mine for that matter) was far more highly subsidized by someone else's taxes than is true today. It wasn't your undeserved smug moral superiority that got you through college - it was someone else paying for the majority of it in a way that is no longer the case.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 17 2017, @12:48PM (2 children)

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 17 2017, @12:48PM (#511042)

        Typical claim from whiney bitches.(both parent posts) You haven't done a damn thing on your own and so no one else could have. Now you are going to tell me the world just handed it to me. Think again.
        I worked for mine every god damned day. Mommy and daddy didn't pay for my education, I did. It cost less, was there a bigger % subsidy? I don't know, prove it. It cost less, I don't disagree with that. Maybe you missed that.
        You also missed the part about sacrifice and living the Spartan life - no spring breaks in Fla, lived at home, and either did school work or hourly wage work 100% of my time starting in high school. Worked two jobs for a while. Yea, I got mine and you can try to diminish it all you want. College cost is only part of it. I drove a 10 year old beater that had 100,000 miles on it when I got it and I fixed myself for 10 years. I paid for my own wedding. I paid SS starting in high school too. Do you know what "doubling back" is? No, you have no clue. I'll tell you what it is. It's when you work a shift and then take only one shift off and then come back to work the next shift. In my case, worked Friday from 3 PM to 11 PM and then back on Sat morning at 7 AM to work till 3 (or usually 7) and then back to work on Sunday (often slept in my car since it got me more sleep). That's how I spent my weekends for 4 years. I worked second or third shift every frigging summer. That's the attitude that helped me "get mine". Now tell me how it was just handed to me. Tell me how much you worked in high school? How much during college? Living at home? Yea, I lived at home and paid a little rent too. You will never, ever understand.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 17 2017, @04:53PM (1 child)

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 17 2017, @04:53PM (#511221)

          Cool story bro. Your inability to pick up better jobs that paid more in college still makes the comment that you were replying to no less true.

          • (Score: 1) by i286NiNJA on Wednesday May 17 2017, @10:42PM

            by i286NiNJA (2768) on Wednesday May 17 2017, @10:42PM (#511432)

            I love how his sob story is like half of what kids have to go through to get ahead now.
            Man these old guys and their entitlement. "OH MAN I HAD TO WORK IN A KITCHEN FOR AWHILE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S LIKE". Oh man it's rich. I'm fucking dying. "I DIDN'T GET TO FUCK GIRLS ON SPRING BREAK YOU KIDS TODAY DON'T KNOW!"

    • (Score: 1) by i286NiNJA on Wednesday May 17 2017, @10:38PM

      by i286NiNJA (2768) on Wednesday May 17 2017, @10:38PM (#511430)

      You made all those sacrifices and all you got to do is retire?

      Lol you're a loser too. God I may have slept in a tent but at least I'm rich now. Why is it these fuckers are always so proud of getting pounded in the ass with nothing to show? Well enjoy spending my social security.