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posted by cmn32480 on Friday May 19 2017, @07:29PM   Printer-friendly
from the but-officer-my-car-meets-government-standards dept.

According to this news item, one of the holdups to the wide usage of autonomous cars is a lack of regulations that can be used to certify the control systems: http://www.automotivetestingtechnologyinternational.com/industry-blogs.php?BlogID=1973

Regulatory challenges
The influence of legislation around the world on the way tests will be performed in future is relatively small. For example, there are as yet no binding standards for driverless cars. This makes it a very complex task to make cars reliably safe for the global market. However, there are of course calls for safety levels, backed up by defined safety standards such as ASIL. They are a pre-requisite for planning reliability for investments in necessary new testing equipment. Crucial for the breakthrough of autonomous driving will be the speed at which global legislation can introduce the appropriate regulations. The sooner this happens, the faster the requirements for validating a completely driverless car can be implemented.

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The same author suggests that the well established V-model for system development, validation and verification might be short-cut in some way to meet aggressive timing requirements -- which sounds like a great recipe for disaster to this AC. Have any SN readers had any involvement in this area?

A general reference on V-models is an interesting read. According to the article, it started at Hughes Aircraft in the 1960s (Los Angeles).


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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by DannyB on Friday May 19 2017, @08:05PM (4 children)

    by DannyB (5839) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 19 2017, @08:05PM (#512344) Journal

    I'm optimistic about technology generally.

    But of all the cool self driving videos I've seen, I don't seem to run across any where the self driving car drives in bad weather. Or where the road is covered with snow. Or where you can't make out the lines that indicate where the lanes are.

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  • (Score: 2) by takyon on Friday May 19 2017, @08:18PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Friday May 19 2017, @08:18PM (#512359) Journal

    You've seen what the companies have wanted you to see. There are still a dozen or more companies doing research and testing autonomous cars on public roads or in demonstration areas. And as long as they aren't being sold or used by the public, they have time to work out how to handle hazardous conditions like snow, messed up roads, or maybe the effects of GPS jamming.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19 2017, @09:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 19 2017, @09:03PM (#512375)

    There's at least one company doing testing in Michigan iirc. The only caveat is that last winter we had about one day with any appreciable amount of snow and slush on the road. In my non-expert opinion, they should at least wait for a real Michigan winter, and even then, that's hardly the worst case scenario for winter driving in North America.

  • (Score: 2) by captain normal on Friday May 19 2017, @09:48PM (1 child)

    by captain normal (2205) on Friday May 19 2017, @09:48PM (#512397)

    Yep I'd like to see one handle driving on 280 from Campbell (California) to 580 in Dublin. Then 580 through Livermore, up over the Altamont Pass, then through Tracy to 5 to Stockton. Then in Stockton take 4 to 99, then right on 26 then 26 to Valley Springs. All that leaving at 4PM on a Friday afternoon with out making any serious booboos....then...maybe then I'll consider riding in an autonomous car.
    Otherwise I think that a lot more testing and learning needs to happen. Plus I'd want fair warning so I could avoid that stretch during the testing.

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by MostCynical on Saturday May 20 2017, @07:46AM

      by MostCynical (2589) on Saturday May 20 2017, @07:46AM (#512543) Journal

      Cars already enable people to crash in bad and even good conditions.
      Youtube has plenty of dashcam videos of Russians driving too fast in snow and ice conditions (possibly *all of them* are driving too fast)
      So long as these cars have fewer accidents, which are less severe than normal people (ie, morons), then insurance companies will start to insist on them, and charge you more if you take control of a car yourself.

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